¿La campaña $1 Billion 'He Gets Us' se pierde o extrae sus datos?

Por David Bumgardner y sarah einselen
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Video ad for He Gets Us campaign (Video screengrab)

los potentially largest Christian ad campaign ever launched is spending $20 million on Super Bowl spots this Sunday to tell viewers that Jesus “gets us.” But a look into the data company powering the ad initiative indicates that “He” may not be the only one who “gets us.”

The company powering the “He Gets Us” campaign is Gloo—which collects massive amounts of data, analyzes it, and sells its services to churches based on that data. Gloo’s aim is to “help people understand that churches care, and that yours is here to help,” its website states.

Ostensibly, He Gets Us is a billion-dollar initiative “to see the Jesus of the Bible represented in today’s culture with the same relevance and impact He had 2000 years ago.” The campaign, featuring ads on YouTube, TV, and billboards, is being funded by La firma, a Kansas-based foundation supported by Hobby Lobby’s co-founder and other wealthy families, most of whom remain anonymous.

Missiologist and author Ed Stetzer, who consulted with the campaign, called the ads “pre-evangelism.” Stetzer, director of Wheaton College’s Billy Graham Center, said that in an increasingly secular society, campaigns like He Gets us can help establish familiarity with Jesus.

“The more distant Christian memory becomes in culture, the more you will need apologetics centers and pre-evangelism ad campaigns,” he said.

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But the campaign is also collecting the personal information of tens of thousands of people, raising questions about what’s being done with that data, and whether spreading the gospel is truly the initiative’s aim.

‘He Gets Us’or at least, our data

As a first action step, the ad campaign urges people to sign up for a Bible-reading plan with YouVersion, an online and mobile Bible app offered by Oklahoma megachurch Life Church. People sign up by giving their name and email address, or by signing in with their Facebook, Google, or Apple accounts. The campaign also urges people to invite friends to participate.

Similarly, people are invited to “connect” with “someone near you who can help you learn more about Jesus and his life or get plugged into a group where you can bring your questions about life and faith.” Then, they’re directed to enter their name, email, phone number, and postal code. Someone interested in a group discussion is redirected to the website for Alpha, an 11-week evangelistic course.

The campaign has also launched a merchandise page, where people can get t-shirts, hats, water bottles, and stickers with “He gets us messaging.” The website says “No money required. Pay with love.” But to get merch, people must provide their email and a shipping address.

Jason Vanderground (Courtesy photo)

According to Jason Vanderground, president of Haven, a Michigan-based branding firm that is working with He Gets Us, an estimated 100 million people were exposed to the ads in the campaign’s first seven months. As of October, 30,000 had reportedly signed up for Bible reading plans, and about 15,000 had completed them.

El Informe Roys (TRR) reached out to He Gets Us about the campaign’s data practices. Kellie Koch with Pinkston, the PR firm for He Gets Us, said the campaign can share the contact information of only those who give their “express consent” to do so. The campaign then can use that information to follow up and determine “how best to help them based on their needs,” Koch said by email.

But it’s possible a company like Gloo could combine that information with other data to find out more about a person than just their email, according to Jeff Hunter, a marketing and communications consultant.

“Often when a business requests just a few pieces of basic personal information on their website like your email address or mailing address, it seems like a reasonable request,” Hunter told TRR. But a business could pair that information with other data that already exists, gathered from third parties, he said.

Gloo’s data privacy FAQ states that the company may use third-party data to “enrich our internal profile” of anyone who has given their information to Gloo—or even one of its client ministries.

Any business pairing its own information with third-party data “can create a surprisingly detailed profile of you that includes your online and offline behaviors and habits,” Hunter explained. And that helps a business decide what advertisements or products a person is likely to be receptive to.

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Social media ad for He Gets Us (Image via Facebook)

Hunter said modern digital marketing techniques are sophisticated and effective at reaching customers. The same techniques could help churches and ministries trying to “reach people who need what they are offering.”

The terms of service state Gloo discloses a user’s information to partners “with the appropriate notice and/or consent, where required.”

Adrian Fry, a data security expert with Accord Analytics, a sponsor of TRR’s podcast, said Gloo’s terms of service don’t clearly state whether Gloo could sometimes disclose sensitive information without consent.

Fry told TRR he couldn’t say whether that meant Gloo would disclose personal information only with consent, or whether there might be some circumstance where information might be disclosed without it.

He added that the terms of service could change, so sharing personal information might be allowed in the future, even if it isn’t now.

“People really need to limit the amount of personal information they provide to external parties,” Fry stressed.

Hunter also said people should weigh whatever benefits they’re getting against the privacy they’re giving up.

“Ask yourself, ‘What are they getting out of it?’” Hunter advised. “If it’s not something you would be willing to share with a stranger in person, don’t share it with strangers, even seemingly well-meaning ones, online.”

Evangelism through ‘relational’ data

Gloo specializes in connecting users it calls “Explorers” to churches and other ministries. The company defines an Explorer as “a person who is either searching online for answers in a time of need or is looking for a church, community, or experiencing any other life transition.”

Gloo connects “Explorers” who have encountered its partner campaigns with local churches who may pay anywhere from $129 to $314 a month for Gloo’s services, depending on the size of the church or ministry. (Gloo is running a promotion giving clients a free year of its services.) He Gets Us is a Destacados Gloo partner campaign.

Koch, the spokeswoman for He Gets Us, said Gloo doesn’t sell people’s data, and only receives data from people who have allowed their information to be shared. In addition, she said Gloo shares people’s data only when they have asked the firm to, such as when someone asks to be connected with a local church or other organization.

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Website for He Gets Us campaign (Screenshot)

While He Gets Us does use tracking—or cookies—for things like running the website and learning about who is visiting, it doesn’t use such technology “to ‘mine’ data about specific users who visit the website,” Koch said.

The He Gets Us privacy notice states that the campaign uses other technology besides tracking to “monitor how you interact with our sites,” including what links a user clicks on or what they type into an online form. That’s used in part “to understand your preferences and interests.”

el nos consigue or Gloo may also use emails and phone numbers from people who order merchandise for purposes like promoting Gloo’s partners or targeting personalized advertisements.

In December 2021, El periodico de Wall Street (WSJ) reportado that Gloo works with around 30,000 churches, or about 10% of all churches in the United States. The same report indicated that Gloo “crunches data to try to identify” people going through a personal crisis.

en un e-book titled “Data & The Church,” Gloo recommends that churches consider using what it calls “relational” data. This data “could be anything from values and motivations, to needs and desires.”

One documentary reported that Gloo worked with British firm Cambridge Analytica to build a platform churches could use to advertise to people who have lost loved ones or have other mental health challenges. Cambridge Analytica made international headlines in the 2010s for harvesting millions of Facebook users’ data without consent, mainly for political marketing.

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Gloo Logo (Image via Facebook)

According to the WSJ report, Gloo has also said in other marketing material that by using thousands of data points from third-party data providers, “it can predict the characteristics of people who might have a marriage in trouble, be suffering from depression or anxiety, or have a propensity for a drug addiction, based ondata analysis.”

Such so-called “relational” insights can then enable churches and ministries to run hyper-targeted outreach and advertisement initiatives for specific ministries or programs.

Once WSJ began reporting on Gloo, the data company reportedly stopped using “mental-health data.” Soon after, tech firm Wunderman Thompson ended its partnership with Gloo.

Wunderman Thompson did not specify why it terminated its contract with Gloo. But WSJ reported that “Wunderman said it collects consumer data from a variety of sources . . . and that its clients are required to use its data with best industry practices. Its data sets, it said, ‘do not contain information about addiction, alcoholism or opioid dependence.’”

Koch confirmed to TRR that Gloo doesn’t process “data that concerns categories such as alcoholism or opioid addiction.” It also treats religion or health information as “sensitive categories . . . that should receive the highest level of data privacy protection,” she said.

Gloo not only analyzes massive amounts of data for local churches and small non-profit organizations, but it also boasts strong partnerships with several well-known Christian powerhouse organizations. Gloo’s “Partners” página indicates that the company has provided services to organizations like Alpha, Cru, Barna, Compassion International, and HarperCollins.

In the margin of its “Data & The Church” e-book, Gloo says it is committed to user privacy: “Information can be a powerful tool, and it’s critical that your partner handles your data with integrity and trust. Trust includes privacy, security, confidentiality, and accountability.”

However, despite that disclaimer, what remains conspicuously unclear is what Gloo does with the data it is collecting through He Gets Us.

Gloo states on its página de preguntas frecuentes that it connects “Explorers” to nearby churches based on the user’s zip code. This raises questions about how data gathered from users of the “He Gets Us” website, chat feature, or Bible-reading plan are being used. Are churches and ministries, hungry for hyper-localized and “relational” data, buying access through Gloo to unsuspecting people in their neighborhoods?

Campaign critics question its messages

The He Gets Us campaign is facing plenty of criticism. An op-ed this week for progressive Christian magazine Sojourners called its apolitical approach “naïve,” arguing Jesus’ message inherently challenged his day’s “politically and financially powerful interests.”

The campaign minimizes Jesus’ crucifixion by saying he was “canceled,” Josiah Daniels claimed in the op-ed. Daniels also argued the campaign relied on anti-Semitic tropes exaggerating Jewish responsibility for Jesus’ death.

Conservatives, too, have sought to distance themselves from the campaign, with some saying it is pointing seekers to gay and transgender-affirming churches in its chat feature.

Southern Baptist pastor Tom Buck tweeted that he contacted the company, apparently using a pseudonym, asking for help finding a “transgender friendly church.” Buck said he received a reply email from the campaign connecting him to one.

The email from the campaign contained an invitation to One Community Church in Dallas, Texas.

TRR reached out to One Community about its LGBTQ stance, but did not receive a response.

However, the church does not have LGBTQ-affirming language on its website, and it is not on a local LGBTQ student group’s list of affirming churches in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. At least two of its mentors, Tony Evans and Matt Chandler, are known for holding a traditional sexual ethic.

A discernment blog called The Dissenter (formerly Reformation Charlotte) tuiteó that it received a reply from a campaign chat representative after posing as a woman scheduled for an abortion who wanted prayer. The representative reportedly prayed that God would “draw near” to the person and would give her “wisdom and guidance.”

An anonymous Christian Twitter personality who goes by the name Josiah Hawthorne objected publicly to the methods and conclusions offered by conservative critics.

He tweeted: “There are conservative pastors catfishing the ‘He Gets Us’ prayer lines by pretending to be someone considering abortion, or a trans man seeking a safe church . . .and shouting ‘GOTCHA!’ when the person on the other end responds with compassion instead of yelling condemnation. This should go in the dictionary under ‘This is not the win you think it is . . .’”

In October, the Southern Baptist Convention’s North American Mission Board (NAMB) President Kevin Ezell publicly disassociated NAMB from He Gets Us.

Ezell did not offer any specifics as to why, saying merely, “the effort is too broad for us to directly connect with the campaign. In my desire to help our churches, I did less diligence than I should have.”

The announcement came one day after Ezell participated in an online forum promoting the campaign with longtime Southern Baptist Ed Stetzer.

Cuándo TRR reached out to NAMB, spokesman Mike Ebert declined to say why the missions organization considered the campaign “too broad.”

And some critics, like Samuel James and “Truth Over Tribe” podcast co-host Patrick Miller, just aren’t sure if He Gets Us is the best use of a billion dollars meant for evangelism.

“I think it’s all well-intended, but the people I hear liking these ads . . . are Christians,” Miller escribió en Twitter.

David Bumgardner is a contributor for Baptist News Global and a licensed evangelist in the Anglican Mission who lives in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. David graduated with his Bachelor of Arts in Christian Studies from Southwestern Seminary. Follow him on Twitter at @fallsanglican.

Sarah Einselen es una escritora y editora premiada que vive en Texas, EEUU.



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19 pensamientos sobre “Does $1 Billion ‘He Gets Us’ Campaign Reach Lost or Mine Their Data?”

  1. Lots to unpack (I’ve commented in an earlier post how I see this as a big waste of $$$):

    #1 – “Missiologist and author Ed Stetzer, who consulted with the campaign, called the ads “pre-evangelism.” ”

    $1 billion is “pre-evangelism”?!?! How much will the expense be once they initiate the actual evangelism?

    #2 – “…an estimated 100 million people were exposed to the ads in the campaign’s first seven months. As of October, 30,000 had reportedly signed up for Bible reading plans, and about 15,000 had completed them.”

    15,000 and 30,000 isn’t that great of a percentage when looking at the bigger 100 million. Also, I suspect a good number of the 15,000 / 30,000 are already strong believers from within the faith community.

    #3 – “Southern Baptist pastor Tom Buck tweeted that he contacted the company, apparently using a pseudonym, asking for help finding a “transgender friendly church.” ”

    Wow! That speaks more about how ‘friendly’ Southern Baptist pastor Tom Buck is towards those outside his faith community.

    1. Great points……plus I’m 70% sure the organization heading this up is using chat bot programs to respond to prayer requests and counseling issues and not flesh and blood people.

  2. Lori Adams-Brown

    Concerning on many levels how this data in the wrong hands can be used to exploit people’s natural human longings and build an empire.

  3. Dig even deeper. Do “connect” churches have to pay after a year?

    Why are there so many clicks to either get to the Bible plan or connecting with a church when the campaign costs 1 billion. Wouldn’t an effective goal conversion strategy be expected?

    Why when people fill out the “connect” information they sometimes never hear from anyone? What does that say about a person reaching out to hear about Jesus and getting silence?

  4. I have yet to understand the hatred and distrust this ad campaign has received. I think the “pre-evangelism” comment is accurate, and I’m not sure what’s so wrong about it. Regarding the “data harvesting,” just about any company you give your information it online is selling it; in this case, potentially to churches to better connect with the people seeing and pursuing these ads. Maybe in an attempt to lead toward true evangelism and discipleship rather than just pre-evangelism? I haven’t heard a compelling reason as to why so many people are against this ad campaign. We’re obviously not reaching many people in our culture as it is, not sure why a new, large scale attempt is so wrong.

  5. I really want to see the good in this (and pray no one is getting taken advantage of). I was at a SuperBowl party on a downtown hotel rooftop yesterday, and when the “love your enemies” themed He Gets Us commercial aired, the crowd got noticeably quieter – and several applauded. It made me smile to see this campaign get that sort of attention. While it was too loud to start much of a conversation at my table “in the moment”, I was able to chat with a couple of women in the elevator bank after the game (praying we can connect again soon).
    I’d love to hear from others about their reactions when seeing these ads air. Were you able to connect with anyone?
    IMO, we can’t just rely on other churches, websites, campaigns and technologies to pick up where these sorts of campaigns leave off. We must be ready to respond with real, human, compassionate interaction to win hearts and minds to Christ.

  6. I found the article on data mining very interesting and informative. I think this article, however, besides the following one from the BBC shows that this is a waste of money for evangelism.

    Think how much more could have been done, if the same amount money was given to the Salvation Army!

    ‘Super Bowl Jesus advert draws ire on left and right”


    According to this BBC article left-wingers were unhappy with the people who started the Servant Foundation, and right-wingers were unhappy with the implied message of open borders and diversity.

    I’m unhappy because I see very little of the technique has to do with what one reads in the Bible on evangelism.

    1. I find it hard to fathom the reaction of Christians who react so violently to “Jesus was a refugee.” — an objectively true statement if you believe what the Gospels say.

      Do they not understand anything of what Jesus says about “the least of these?”

      1. mike w,

        Where in the Gospels is Jesus described as a refugee?

        From VDay: “He moved with his parents from one Roman province to another one.

        Egypt was formally incorporated into the Roman Empire as a province 27 years before Jesus Christ was born by Augustus Caesar, “I added Egypt to the empire of the Roman people.”

        With these words the emperor Augustus summarized the subjection of Cleopatra’s kingdom in the great inscription that records his achievements. The province was to be governed by a viceroy, a prefect with the status of a Roman knight who was directly responsible to the emperor. The first viceroy was the Roman poet and soldier Gaius Cornelius Gallus.”

  7. Not “getting” the speculation about motives for gathering respondent data, when it is to help them encounter Jesus and provide options to find a local church home. What purpose does this article serve, other than to unnecessarily undermine such an effort to reach the world for Christ? And as the funders have so generously given of their own means to launch this; what is the issue in engaging local churches to participate and help support and therefore continue this work? They are not getting more wealth out of this, they are people God has blessed who are using the fruits of their successes to serve Him, at an unprecedented scale. It’s a win-win-win for God. Jesus is being lifted up over our nation, praise the Father, and may He draw many unto Himself, that they may know His love.

    1. They are collecting massive amounts of personnel data on people, selling the marking data collected back to churches for between $129 to $314 a month. As of 2021, per WSJ, to 30,000 churches. Using an average of $221.5 X 12 months = $2,658 per year X 30,000 churches = $ 79,740.000 per year. Is this information also sold to other, non-church companies that are Gloo members? And at what cost?

      “The company powering the “He Gets Us” campaign is Gloo—which collects massive amounts of data, analyzes it, and sells its services to churches based on that data.”, but

      “Gloo connects “Explorers” who have encountered its partner campaigns with local churches who may pay anywhere from $129 to $314 a month for Gloo’s services, depending on the size of the church or ministry. (Gloo is running a promotion giving clients a free year of its services.) He Gets Us is a featured Gloo partner campaign.”

      “In December 2021, The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported that Gloo works with around 30,000 churches, or about 10% of all churches in the United States. The same report indicated that Gloo “crunches data to try to identify” people going through a personal crisis.”

  8. Next time we complain about how companies “should do more” to court us or consider our interests and preferences as Christians, let’s revisit our reactions and comments.We STAY ready to tear it all down:
    “That’s not the way to introduce someone to Christ!” (I guess there’s only one way? My Bible shows many different interactions and introductions to Jesus)
    “You have to tell them about the WHOLE Bible in one exchange!”
    “You shared the gospel but didn’t baptize them! You can’t let them think that’s ok!”
    “You didn’t mention John 3:16! In the KJV version – all other versions are blasphemous!”
    “The guy in the background was wearing a rainbow…you have to demand he repent or tell him he’s going to hell! Otherwise it’s fake!”
    “Diversity? That’s wokeism and evil! Everyone must be white conservatives or you’re supporting baby killing!”
    Sigh. I get why companies think ‘why bother? It will never be good enough anyway.’

  9. As Alistair Begg said, “Yes Jesus gets us. But who is he?” Unless one understands that they are a sinner in need of a savior, why would they have any interest in Jesus?

  10. Please consider this:

    2 Peter 2
    The Rise of False Prophets
    But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. …
    New American Standard Bible 1995

    And also..

    Matthew 7:13-14
    The Narrow and Wide Gates
    13 “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14 For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
    New American Standard Bible 1995

    Marketing a False Jesus for intel/data mining and monetary gain may seem pragmatic to some but it’s just emulating the world system. This furthers the cause of the True Jesus little to none and that’s being optimistically kind. Run, don’t walk to the nearest exit, then keep on running towards the true and perfect Jesus of the Bible. His Kingdom is not of this earth.

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