The state of Oklahoma is in the market for some Bibles.
They might get some help from Donald Trump.
The state’s education department is on the hunt for 55,000 copies of the Scriptures, bound in leather or a similar material and including a mix of religious and historic documents like the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence.
While the Bible remains one of the most popular books for sale, few versions fit Oklahoma’s requirements, de acuerdo a Oklahoma Watch, which contacted Mardell, a major Christian retailer where none of the 2,900 Bibles on sale reportedly fit the bid criteria.
One Bible that might fit is country singer Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA” Bible, which President Trump endorses. That Bible has the right translation and historic documents and is available in leather for about $60.
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“The supplier must provide only the King James Version Bible for historical accuracy and contain both the Old and New Testaments,” according to a bid description for the Bibles, publicado by Oklahoma Watch, a nonprofit investigative publication. “The supplier’s Bible must include copies of The United States Pledge of Allegiance, The U.S. Declaration of Independence, The U.S. Constitution, and The U.S. Bill of Rights.”
Ryan Walters, Oklahoma’s state superintendent of public instruction, has championed teaching the Bible in public schools and has mandated that it be taught in grades 5-12. That mandate seems to have prompted the quest to buy the Bibles.
The bid description does not mention the Apocrypha — a group of texts found in Catholic Bibles — but does ban any “study guides, publisher narration, or additional commentary.”
The “We the People Bible,” respaldado by Donald Trump Jr., might also fit the bill. That Bible is available in packs of 10 for about $500 online and has the state education department’s desired documents.
Other patriotic versions of the Bible might not qualify for the bid. The “American Patriot’s Bible” — which is available online — has the King James Version and patriotic images but does not appear to have the Constitution or Declaration of Independence.
The “Founder’s Bible,” from controversial conservative author David Barton, posee the wrong translation and about 1,000 pages of commentary about the Bible and America’s history. It also does not appear to have the founding documents.
One caveat could derail Trump’s favorite Bible from ending up in the hands of Oklahoma school kids. The “God Bless the USA” Bible includes lyrics from Greenwood’s hit song, which might be disqualifying content.
A spokesman for the “God Bless the USA” Bible did not respond to a request for comment about whether a bid for that Bible will be submitted to Oklahoma.
When asked if the “God Bless the USA” Bible was eligible, Dan Isett, communications director for the Oklahoma Department of Education, declined to comment, saying it would be inappropriate since the bidding process is now open.
“We are excited to bring back the Bible in its essential historical and literary context to Oklahoma classrooms,” he said in an email. “Superintendent Walters has committed the agency to an open and transparent RFP (request for proposal) process, consistent with the norms for state procurement, that will be adequate to meet the needs of Oklahoma classrooms. There are hundreds of Bible publishers and we expect a robust competition for this proposal.”
The “God Bless the USA” Bible’s controversial history could prove to be an advantage in the bidding process. An earlier version of the Bible, featuring a licensed version of the New International Version, was cancelado after public outcry in 2021. That led the group marketing the “God Bless the USA” Bible to switch to the King James Version, which fits the bid proposal.
Greenwood’s project found new life earlier this year when Donald Trump released a video promoting it. (That endorsement is a paid promotion.) The Trump campaign has also used “God Bless the USA,” Greenwood’s 1984 hit patriotic song, at rallies.
Fans of the former president can also buy a signed version of the “God Bless the USA” Bible for $1,000. For those looking for a less expensive option, a “The Day God Intervened” version of the Bible is available for $60 — featuring a cover embossed with July 12, 2024, the date of the failed assassination attempt on Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. Some religious followers of Trump have claimed that God miraculously intervened to save the former president’s life.
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The shameless grift on the Right is appalling.
How can this be seen as anything but a way to shovel money to Trump.
He’s budgeting the purchase of 55,000 Bibles and is not even asking for a discount?
If there is anyone in publishing, what kind of discount would someone typically get with the purchase of 55,000 books?
Toda gran causa comienza como un movimiento, se convierte en un negocio y finalmente degenera en un chanchullo.
Eric Hoffer, The Temper of Our Time
And they used the KJV because it’s in public domain. Using the NIV would have been a better choice since it’s in the language of the people but they would have owed the official publisher of the translation not to mention there was an outcry against it. (Per the story)
But to answer your question I’m sure someone would have offered them a discount.
And I have also wonder if Trump is going to get a cut of the sales in addition to the sales of his $100,000 watches.
He gets no money from this.
He gets royalties from bible sales as part of his licensing deal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_wDQiEluJ4&t=1105s
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-god-bless-usa-bible/
Highlighting from the link you posted, Jen:
“GodBlessTheUSABible.com uses Donald J. Trump’s name, likeness and image under paid license from CIC Ventures LLC, which license may be terminated or revoked according to its terms.”
“CIC Ventures LLC — the limited liability company mentioned at the end of the answer — is listed in Trump’s 2023 financial disclosures with him as its manager, president, secretary and treasurer, as The Washington Post reported. The same company is also listed at the bottom of the website for Trump’s sneaker deal he announced in February 2024 and is associated with other products he previously endorsed, the Post also reported.”
Further evidence that evangelicalism is nothing but a grift. There is no substance or principle or truth to it.
This is why no Christian should vote for Donald Trump: he is promoting blasphemy. Human documents shouldn’t be juxtaposed to the holy Word. This is an idolatry of nation that puts patriotism as equal to piety. Not voting at all is better than voting for this.
Hear, hear!! As a friend and spiritual mentor of mine, said: “I am for God. I am for country. I am not for God and country.” That is, God and country are separate considerations, not to be placed on the same footing or in the same breath. We are “strangers” and “pilgrims” just passing through (1 Peter 2:11, Hebrews 11:13, 1 Peter 1:1). In whichever country God plants us in, we live like exiles with our “different laws”, the principles of the Kingdom (Esther 3:8-9) and seek the peace of the land we are in (Jeremiah 29:4-7).
There is only so much passion and loyalty in the human heart. May yours have an eternal perspective.
Merchandising and using the Bible for political gain is very sad. And using the KJV is going to confuse a lot of students.
Greg, Tim and George,
This is an article about the Oklahoma school district purchasing Bibles. Nothing more. You all seem triggered every time the word “Trump” appears anywhere. Re-read the article, omit his name, and you will have nothing to simmer about.
Are you comfortable with political documents being attached to the Word of God? How do you think this is to be viewed in light of not adding anything to or taking away from the Word of God?
tricia russell,
Here is a question for you to contemplate: Does adding commentary to a Bible “add or take away” from the Word of God?
No. The Word of God can be surrounded by all kinds of commentary and documents and pictures, etc. The actual words of the Bible have not changed.
It is those who actually try to delete or add words to the Biblical text who are to be condemned.
No – stop the gaslighting.
The issue is including additional documents not commentary that helps to explain and understand the text. It is concerning that you can’t see the difference.
Note the inclusion of the pledge of allegiance – when our allegiance is to God alone. We are not citizens of this world but of heaven. We are in the world but not of the world. Any allegiance to another authority divides our loyalty to God alone.
These are the documents included:
Handwritten chorus to “God Bless The USA” by Lee Greenwood
The US Constitution
The Bill of Rights
The Declaration of Independence
The Pledge of Allegiance
Tricia Russell:
My point stands. The Biblical text has not been altered, has it?
Tricia Russell:
Your words: “Any allegiance to another authority divides our loyalty to God alone.”
Did you know that all Military personnel swear an oath of allegiance? Did you know that God commands us to respect our government?
Although we are citizens of God’s Kingdom if we believe in Jesus and His plan for our redemption, we still have our feet on the ground in THIS world. We must often pledge allegiance to our country, particularly as American citizens. Indeed, one cannot become an American citizen without that oath.
One other quick point: I understand your aversion to including separate texts inside the covers of God’s Word. In my opinion, this does not in any way detract from the actual Biblical text itself. Others are free to disagree, but I am certain the Bible can stand on its own, with or without the documents mentioned in this article.
The message is the same, and that’s what matters most.
Your concerns and response are apt and those who endeavor to explain them away are missing the point that Holy Scripture should, in principle, stand alone and not be ‘bound’ with any political, ideological, or philosophical statements because these things will become ‘other gospels’ that embolden Nationalism and generate more and more shameless idolatry.
As for the justification that such statements should be ‘bound’ with Scripture because some bibles today have commentaries. Well, commentaries are just that, Biblical commentaries which offer a systematic series of explanations and interpretations of Holy Scripture due to diligent study and research of texts and historical issues and events related to God, creation, and Gods will for humanity.
cinthia-
You can respect something without pledging an oath of allegiance to it. I’m sure we can all think of people, organizations, cultures and the like that we respect, yet have not pledged an allegiance to.
Also, to state it is a requirement to state the pledge of allegiance to become a citizen is INACCURATE. What is said is a NATURALIZATION OATH, with language similar to what our state and government officials say when sworn in. The same with joining the military – what is stated is a MILITARY OATH (to obey the POTUS, defend the Constitution, etc), not the pledge of allegiance.
An oath is different from a pledge: an oath is a declaration of a public commitment; a pledge is a commitment to a goal.
A reason the pledge of allegiance isn’t required to become a citizen or join the military is its reference to God; it is common for many to opt out due to religious reasons – and freedom of speech and religion are both protected by our Constitution. This is why many Jehovah’s Witnesses do not say it – they believe they are to only pledge allegiance to God, not any man or anything man made (which includes this country). And yes, you may become a citizen or serve in the military while being a practicing JW.
It also is inaccurate to imply that part of being citizens of God’s kingdom means we “must often” say a pledge of allegiance to this nation (or ANY nation). That may be what you interpret – and you are free to do so (IMO saying the pledge does not take away from your allegiance to the Lord) – but scripture says NOTHING of the sort.
Marin Heiskell:
Here is the Naturalization Oath, for your information:
“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”
Note the term “bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”
Yes, I know what the naturalization oath is (and the military oath too). I’ve been to naturalization, military swearing in, and Air Force Academy graduation ceremonies – all very beautiful moments for participants and their loved ones.
I was clarifying that you were incorrect in saying that participants in these ceremonies are required to say the pledge of allegiance.
I was also defining how a pledge and oath are different:
– It’s not called the ‘oath of allegiance’ for a clear reason
– It’s not called the ‘naturalization pledge’ or ‘military pledge’ for a clear reason as well
I stand by my clarifications.
“A reason the pledge of allegiance isn’t required to become a citizen or join the military is its reference to God; …”
Per Smithsonian Magazine:
“Francis Bellamy, a former Baptist preacher and magazine writer, created the pledge in 1892 as a marketing stunt and a patriotic oath.”
It was written to sell more flags, that’s it, using patriotism as a sales tactic to pressure people into buying one.
DR, If Oklahoma wanted a historical Bible, it should be like the one Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and all the other Founders and colonists used- 1611 KJV, with 80 books, including the Apocrypha.
Daniel- yes that would make more sense and tie neatly into the history they are trying to teach.
Also which version of the KJV? There are several printing years and editions from the initial publication all the way to 1769.
No – most everyone that is reasonable and understands the constitution is not that upset at Trump about it, it’s just more of a ‘is anyone surprised by this?’
What is shocking is that it is a $50 Bible being purchased w/ public tax dollars to be taught in the schools. Regular KJV “gift” bibles of the same size and Biblical text can be had for $5 at the local Mardel stores in Oklahoma – https://www.mardel.com/bibles/case-pack-bibles/kjv-economy-outreach-bible-paperback/p/3568359
But of course, those don’t contain the very documents that Trump and many of his followers tried to subert on January 6th, but what’s a little light treason among friends, eh?
What if it were the Quran instead of the Bible? Is that still ok with you?
Please don’t invoke the founders either, not without knowing that Thomas Jefferson himself stated “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religious or tranquility of Musselmen…” (Treaty of Tripoli, 1797)
“ Please don’t invoke the founders either, not without knowing that Thomas Jefferson himself stated “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religious or tranquility of Musselmen…” (Treaty of Tripoli, 1797)”
Johnny Adams is the signature on that treaty, not Tommy’s.
The founders apparently weren’t unified on the issue of whether the US was a Christian nation, nor were they unified on how and why the Constitution replaced the Articles of Confederation. We The People we’re mysteriously absent from the process.
apologies – correct re: Adams / Jefferson!
Agreed. The snarky tone of the article and many comments are missing the obvious point: 55,000 Oklahoma youth are being given the word of God. And the students don’t have to pay for it. Just like the students wouldn’t have to pay for salvation if other people paid for the evangelism. It’s a marvel, really, that some so-called Christians would be knee-jerk opposed to young people getting the word of God for free. They’d probably be opposed to youth getting saved for free. Wondering if such Christians really are Christians.
Oh my, David Miranda you are missing the point.
Of course we want children and youth to have the scriptures and to know Jesus and the love of God. That is why I disagree so strongly to what Oklahoma is doing.
Forcing teachers to use the Bible in curriculum only opens the way to distort and misrepresent scripture.
Consider how teachers who are unbelievers, of different religions, or hostile to Christianity (or even progressive Christians!) will present it to your children.
También…
Romans 14:4 – “Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.”
This passage is addressing disputes about faith practices, reminding believers that only God is the judge of another person’s heart. To say that people who have concerns like I do might not be Christians – that is dangerous territory. I’m asking for a little more charity, and to leave the judgments to God.
“Omit his name….”
Right, change the facts and of course you change the story. I fail to see any logic in that.
Ms. Norbeck said: “My point stands. The Biblical text has not been altered, has it?”
This begs the question, what point are we talking about? Alteration of the biblical text, or corruption of the biblical message. Many cults use the unaltered words of the Bible to advance their own heretical doctrines. Which is more important, the words of the Bible, or the message of the Bible (Matthew 23:16-22)?
Because if the point is the corruption of the biblical message, then consider this. Suppose I publish a Bible with Hindu (or Buddhist) scriptures as an appendix to the Bible, I haven’t altered the Bible, have I? I promise that I will pick only those parts of the sacred texts of other religions that do not contradict the message of the Bible. Have I corrupted the Bible or not?
“Two thousand years ago Jesus Christ said that His Kingdom was not of this world, yet His followers have been trying to prove Him wrong ever since.” ~Coleman Luck
How can people like you not see the grift of this man and his movement?
This wannabe MAGA superstar is ordering 55,000 “God Bless The USA Bibles” (that are *made in China*) for $3 each. And he wants to spend tax dollars to pay Trump $60 each for 55,000 of them.
Has the prosperity gospel numbed down the conscience of the entire evangelical movement?
It turns out Trump’s ‘God Bless the USA’ Bibles were made in China
Critics called the Trump Bible blasphemous
Richard Lardner
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Dake Kang
3 hours ago
Global trade records show a printing company in China’s eastern city of Hangzhou shipped close to 120,000 of the Bibles to the United States between early February and late March.
The estimated value of the three separate shipments was $342,000, or less than $3 per Bible, according to databases that use customs data to track exports and imports. The minimum price for the Trump-backed Bible is $59.99, putting the potential sales revenue at about $7 million….
There’s a potentially lucrative opportunity for Trump to sell 55,000 of the “God Bless the USA” Bibles to Oklahoma after the state’s top education official ordered public schools to incorporate Scripture into lessons for grades 5 through 12. Oklahoma plans to spend $3 million on Bibles that initially matched Trump’s edition: a King James Version that contains the U.S. founding documents.
“You all seem triggered every time the word ‘Trump’ appears anywhere.”
I’d like to offer another perspective: Is this the first time that churches have clearly, openly, and/or formally backed a candidate? No. But it IS the first time that such backing has been elevated to the level of “triggering” condemnation of those who don’t fall in line from some of the biggest and most influential platforms. And if there’s anything I am passionate about, it is my salvation through Jesus Christ and ALL that the Lord has done for me – both before I came to Him and ever since. To have that questioned, doubted or belittled because I don’t support Donald Trump is insulting to not only me, but to the Lord who saved me and whom I serve. His saving power is not muted (or activated) by ANY person or political party.
And before anyone says “I’m not condeming you, BUT (followed by a condemnation)”, I’d like to say, YES YOU ARE. You are just doing it in a passive aggressive way or with indirect language; but your message is the same. To say or imply someone isn’t saved is making a statement about the condition and destination of their soul. To question if someone knows the Lord is questioning the condition and destination of their soul. To do this over a political party or candidate MUST STOP.
THAT is what you’re sensing. Not hatred or “being triggered”. But being passionately clear about the power this man should not have, does not have, and will not EVER have in the lives of the Lord’s people. Or at least in my life.
When I saw the headline, I thought they were referring to Trump’s personal Bible. You know, the one with cobwebs and an inch of dust. And then as I read the article, I thought it was a Babylon Bee parody. Hopefully, the “version” or dare I say perversion they want isn’t available (although I’m sure someone will come up with one). What a waste of money. Surely every school library in the state has at least one Bible. Who is going to read archaic KJV? If parents want their kids to read a Bible, they can do it at home, on their phone, or in church. Attempting to disguise it as a historical document thanks to some splicing-in a few historical references is deceptive.
Daniel Busetti,
The King James Version of the Bible is absolutely beautiful from a literary perspective. English is a lyrical language, and the KJF has some of the most poetic and moving passages of any Biblical translation. One of my favorites is Psalm 23.
That said, I would prefer to have my students read a Bible rather than some of the garbage currently being recommended in high schools across our country.
And, please, “wasting money” is not the best argument here. I don’t believe anyone in the world has ever wasted money when it comes to buying a Bible. In fact, I would argue that owning and reading a Bible is the best investment of time and money anybody in the world can ever make.
The issue is less what someone spends on a Bible, Cynthia. It is the idea of someone is profiteering on its sale.
KJV is missing 500 years of biblical scholarship and lacks the benefit of all the manuscripts that have been discovered during that time -so it is not the most precise or accurate translation.
The language is archaic. Poetry of that era can be appreciated by studying Shakespeare.
Nothing wrong with favoring it for that reason for your personal use, but it’s problematic when it comes to insisting that others use it as well. By the way, translations have been and are being produced in all the different languages and dialects of the world – not in the KJV obviously, but in their own language that they can understand and relate to. How do people who insist the KJV is the only reliable translation reconcile that idea with the fact that most in the world can’t even read it?
Also, do parents want their children being taught the Bible by teachers who have progressive beliefs, do not believe at all or may even be hostile to it?
it is a waste if the same text can be had for $5 per bound item, or free on the internet.
Would you rather students read the Quran”rather than some of the garbage currently being recommended in high schools across our country.”? If not – why is ok for the government of Oklahoma to require the Bible (other than it being what YOU prefer)
No matter how many versions of the Bible I own and read, when it comes to reciting, I do go to KJV. The language is poetic and powerful – “The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want” just hits me in a different way than “The Lord is my shepherd, I lack nothing.” And the use of KJV in the original Ten Commandments film adds to its majesty. All my opinion.
HOWEVER, I can understand the argument that the KJV is tougher to understand – especially for school aged children – than NIV or ASV (which use more modern language, yet are known for remaining close to the original text). If the point is for children to read and understand it, knowing that a teacher will get fired for supporting any sort of understanding of it, I do wonder why KJV was chosen.
Not that the whole thing isn’t problematic: separation of church and state (using tax dollars to purchase religious texts), showing religious preference (NO WAY would it be ok if it were the Torah or Quran), showing political preference (the only version that meets the standard is supported by one political candidate), etc.
So the Bible version has to be KJV for “historical accuracy”. Does that mean the original KJV that was complete with 80 books? Or the shaved down over a couple hundred years later by the Vatican version with 66 books?
And which version of the Constitution will accompany it?
“ Let me explain: the original Constitution drafted by the Founding Fathers read: ‘The Constitution for the united states of America.’ [note that neither the words ‘united’ nor ‘states’ began with capital letters] But the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA’ is a corporate constitution, which is absolutely NOT the same document you think it is. First of all, it ended all our rights of sovereignty [sui juris]…”
Liberty Beacon article 6-24-16
Catholic editions of the Bible have all the books. Protestants took some of them.
Criticize the Roman Catholic Church for what it has done, if you want, but not for what it didn’t do.
this is a perfect encapsulation of the insanity of mixing theology with politics and what a disaster theocracies are. Even saying “Christian” isn’t enough, it alread has to devolve into Catholic / Protestant. How long before the OK government says only Protestantism is the real Christianity and is what should be taught before it becomes an argument over demonations. Lutheran? Methodist? Anabaptist, Anglican? Madness.
I agree. The government of Oklahoma – a fine state in many ways, we lived there from 1996 to 2003 – is being dumb.
My beef is actually that both have been vehicles of deception for far too long, and the more I uncover and understand how deep the unscrupulous, evil entities have manipulated religion/churches, the more I unbridle my hobby horses and slaughter my sacred cows. Quite freeing actually.
History is full of massive lies that societies hold as truths today, especially American.
Beto,
The failed assassination attempt on Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania was on 7/13/24.
Ryan Walters is under investigation by the Oklahoma Legislature; I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone before too long. Several OK school districts have already said they won’t comply with his mandate. What he’s doing clearly violates Oklahoma’s Constitution which prohibits public funds being used to benefit any system of religion. In order for this to be legal, Ryan has to say the Bible is a purely historical document, which it clearly isn’t. Seems very hypocritical.
Since when did hypocrisy ever get in the way of a True Believer™ trying to impose their ideology on everybody else?
Ruth James,
Well said! Your comments made me smile. Thanks.
So you’re going to vote for a lifelong philanderer, grifter, serial adulterer, proven sexual assaulter (credibly accused by many more women), an actual self-admitted underage sex pervert, convicted fraudster, indicted of the theft of top secret documents and of covering up said theft, indicted for attempting to steal an election and impeached for inciting an insurrection? A man with a career long record of racism, and who has filed for bankruptcy on multiple occasions (the last time also under investigation for fraud, by the way), and who has never met a despot or dictator he doesn’t admire and fawn over.
And we have barely even scraped the surface of why this man is uniquely unsuited to be president. I guess you missed the fact that your so-called pro-life hero has stated in no uncertain terms that he will never sign a national abortion ban as president.
Jesus isn’t on the ballot, but hypocrisy certainly is, and you’re falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
Mike Walker:
Your words are meaningless when it comes to reality. President Trump led the country through four years of NO WAR. That alone is an improvement over the current administration’s futile attempts to “negotiate” with terrorists.
Leading through strength is what is needed now. Only President Trump has that ability. Harris has proven her weakness over the last almost four years. She lacks even the rudimentary skills necessary to lead this great nation.
It’s not about character. If it was, NOBODY would be qualified.
The very narrow and specific requirements in the RFP (leather-bound, or similar cover; includes the text of US historic documents) seem to indicate trying to steer the business to one supplier they know already meets the criteria.
I can understand wanting something more durable than paperback for Bibles that are going to be used year after year in classrooms. But a simple hardcover version would suffice (as most other school textbooks are bound). Hardcover KJV Bibles are usually available in bulk for under $10-$15 per copy. My eldest daughter attended a private Christian school through 8th grade, and they used a NKJV hardcover that cost about $12 tops.
I’ll add that public contracts are supposed to be competitive. There are definitely conflicts-of-interest abound, especially for no-bid contracts, but generally speaking you want your vendors to compete for the contract so that you can get the best deal for the taxpayer. This is such a blatant stunt by the Superintendent he will likely be investigated/lose his next election. The vendor of the “God Bless the USA” Bible could charge OK pretty much whatever they want, since no on else can provide a Bible that can meet these criteria. Not to mention Donald Trump gets a cut of the taxpayer’s money.
Beloved Christians, please don’t let all these antics& news distress or dishearten you.
Because one thing remains, whether in the city or in the jungle..Whatever language whatever translation. This remains:
Juan 10:27
“My sheep LISTEN to My voice; I know them, and THEY FOLLOW ME .”
Nations, kingdoms, leaders, people, ages, seasons come and go, But This has been, is and will forever be:
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!
All the ravings, ragings and ongoings will never change this.
God bless you all, may He strengthen & comfort the hearts of all who fear Him and have put their faith in Jesus Christ.
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I’m glad you deleted the comment about “cackling.” It indeed violated the Website terms and was full of misinformation and misogyny anyway.
That said, I’ve commented here multiple times over the years, and I don’t think I’ve ever had a comment post automatically (even when I select “save my name… for the next time I comment”), which implies manual approval for every comment, right?
I wish I knew. For some reason, some seem to go through automatically and some don’t. Probably someone who’s way more tech savvy than me could explain.
Hmm… okay. Thanks for replying.
Understood. That’s reasonable. Thanks for explaining.
Where to start?
Some of our most revered teachers disagree on post or pre trib, but agree on the fundamental definition of what it means to actually be a Christian. However, a whole slew of others strongly objected to that definition.
Just what we need, more confusion, about our faith, in secular places. Who are the teachers? How do parents object to misinterpretations of scripture?
Being a Christian and patriotic is one thing, Christian Nationalism, is a whole other thing, and NOT of God. The Bible stands “alone.” The inclusion of the pledge, and constitution is proof of it not being about CHRIST, but about America, and purely political.
No truly Godly leader pushes country over GOD. Anyone who truly loves GOD, loves other Christians – all over the world, and sees them as brothers and sisters. Christian Nationalist love America, and some, particular, Americans, and call themselves Christians.
The Oklahoma School System going for the Trump Bible makes total sense… they rank 50th in the nation..
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/education/2023/07/28/oklahoma-schools-ranked-worst-education-wallethub-study/70486805007/
Maybe the Oklahoma School System could also give a course on Trump’s favorite Bible Verses…
. . . and in the top ten states supporting Trump.
Well, if the King James Bible was good enough St Paul, it’s good enough for me.
The King James Bible was published in 1611. The apostle Paul died about 1,535 years before that.
He meant it as a joke.
I think he was being facetious but yes the point taken that the KJV wasn’t even around for the first 1600 years of Christianity and it simply does not have the weight of accurate scholarship many people think it does.
But that’s not likely what those who created this law are looking for.
It’s almost like a documents are primary and the scripture is secondary.
Clearly I’m taking things a bit too seriously. :)
Indeed, but gave me giggle all the same. Love the work you’re doing. All the best from NZ.
I think Byrson was trying to be ironic Julie. At least I hope he was!
Bryson, this is a fantastic comment. Thanks for the laugh this morning! (I’m hoping it’s satire, but in case it’s not, see Julie’s comment)
I thought I’d just add some light relief from the comments in the hope that some reflection on what has been said might be attempted.
Context is always important. The Bible we encounter is contextualised: by physical appearance and feel; by denominational context of presentation; by human qualities of those associated with its presentation; and much more qualifying as context.
Being presented in an educational context, being exposed to that contextualisation over many years of early life, having specifically USA documents tying Bible and USA together, and how all that intersects with how legislators are otherwise shaping the State; adds up to a hyper-focused project of indoctrination, where off-ramps to the effect of that indoctrinating will all be closed off.
Will such a project be found to not comply with the USA’s Constitution? I know that separation isn’t explicitly in the Constitution. However what is in the Constitution, when taken together, would seem to support such separation.
Surely Trump is going to donate his favorite USA Bible to those Oklahoma schools. — isn’t he?!
Thank God for this. Getting the Bible back in schools is a good thing. I think I might just purchase one of these.
The superintendent needs to be investigated. I would not be surprised if malfeasance will be confirmed.
The Bible contains a lot of violence: murder, rape, dismemberment, multiple wives, servants, lying, animal sacrifice, virgin birth, etc…
Without full context, immature kids, with zero interest in salvation, can make a mockery of our faith.
In Christian schools, it is understood what is being taught, and embraced and supported by family and church.
I want everyone to see our God as the truth and the way, as early as possible. I just don’t think public school is equipped for that task.
Parents have more influence over kids than anyone. Friends are next. Teach your kids to revere and obey God’s word, model it yourself, then help them choose their friends carefully.
Even kids, respect their peers who walk in faith. I became a Christian because I secretly desired the faith of one of my classmates. What she had seemed far more valuable than ALL of my popularity. Eventually, I set out to become a Christian. I wish she knew how profound her quiet walk of faith fueled a fire within me, in a public school, without prayer or Bibles.
As a child in Sunday School with my good old KJV, I learned the proper KJV terms for illegitimate child (Hebrews 12:8 et al), urine (Isaiah 36:12 et al), urination (1Kings 14:10 et al), and testicles (Deuteronomy 23:1). My mother, on the other hand, was quick to reprimand me for using such language. Take out your old KJV and see for yourself.
President Trump has called for 100% tariffs on items purchased from China so the price could be doubling if he wins the election since this particular Bible is printed there.
Marin: to your excellent response I can only add a shout of “Amen!”