While the United States has become more religiously diverse in recent decades, white Christians remain the largest religious segment of the country, making up about 42% of the population, according to data from the Public Religion Research Institute. And for Donald Trump, their support has once again proved key to his victory.
Exit poll data from CNN and other news outlets reported that 72% of white Protestants and 61% of white Catholics said they voted for Trump. Among white voters, 81% of those identified as born-again or evangelical supported Trump, up from 76% in 2020 and similar to the 80% of support Trump received in 2016.
Ryan Burge, associate professor of political science at Eastern Illinois University, said that kind of support is hard to overcome, especially in the Rust Belt swing states that helped seal Trump’s victory.
“It’s hard to overcome the white God gap in a place like Pennsylvania, or Michigan and Wisconsin,” he said.
But Trump also won the Christian vote overall: 58% of all Catholics voted for him and 63% of Protestants, according to the early exit polls. If the early exit poll numbers hold steady, that will prove to be a jump in Catholic support for Trump compared with 2020, when 50% of Catholics voted for him.
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— Joshua Mercer (@joshuamercer) November 6, 2024
Some of that may have to do with an increase in Trump support among Hispanic voters. Almost two-thirds of Hispanic Protestant (64%) and just over half of Hispanic Catholic voters (53%) also supported Trump, according to initial CNN exit polls. In the 2020 election, only about a third of Hispanic Catholics voted for Trump.
Jews (78%), other non-Christians (59%) and those with no religious affiliation (71%) supported Kamala Harris, according to the CNN exit poll.
Robert Jones, PRRI’s president, said more data is needed to understand the Hispanic vote in the 2024 election. But he wonders whether economics played a major role in Hispanic support for Trump, more than religion.
“They don’t feel like their situation has improved over the past four years,” he said.
Jones said Trump was able to send two distinct messages during the campaign — one about being tough on immigration and crime, which appealed to white Christians, and the other about the economy, which appealed to Hispanic Christians.
Burge suspects Hispanic Catholics and Protestants are more conservative on social issues, such as abortion and LGBTQ rights, which may also have played a role in the election.
He wonders if the Harris campaign’s support for abortion rights, in particular, may have backfired with Hispanic Christians.
“That’s a hard message for a moderate Hispanic voter,” he said, adding that while voters in a number of states supported abortion rights, that did not carry over to overall support for Harris. Burge also wonders if inflation and other issues about the economy swung the elections. While Trump is known for causing controversy online, Burge said, many voters are paying more attention to day-to-day concerns.
“All they are thinking is, gas is expensive, bread is expensive, milk is expensive,” he said. “Let’s try something else. That’s the story.”
Both white and Hispanic Christians may also be worried about the changing nature of America and the decline of religion’s power in the culture. While few Americans want the nation to have an official Christian religion, many do see Christianity as important or feel a nostalgia for God and country patriotism, rather than a culture where secular values dominate.
And the swing states that decided the election, such as Wisconsin, are places where white Christians — especially white mainline Protestants and white Catholics who supported Trump — are found in large numbers.
Samuel Perry, a University of Oklahoma sociologist who studies Christian nationalism and other religious trends, wonders if the growth of nondenominational and Pentecostal churches in the United States may have played a role in the 2024 races.
Those churches are often multiethnic, he said, but not because white Christians are joining predominantly Black or Hispanic Christians. Instead, he said, Christians of color are joining majority-white churches that often lean Republican. That can affect their voting patterns, he said.
“Their allegiance is not to their ethnic group, who tend to vote Democrat,” he said. “It’s going to be more of a multiethnic conservative, white-dominated Christianity that unequivocally votes Republican.”
Jones said the 2024 election once again shows the close allegiance between white Christians and the Republican Party and the divided nature of religion in America. Most faith categories in America — Jews, Muslims, Black Protestants, nonreligious Americans and, until 2024, Hispanic Catholics — have supported the Democratic Party. White Christians, on the other hand, remained tied to Republicans.
“They have not moved a centimeter,” said Jones. “And they get out and vote.”
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And you could replace Trump in this article with Reagan, Bush, McCain, or Romney and reach the same conclusion. And they accused them and their voters of being racist too. So nothing is new under the sun and this article continues to push the same false narrative. There are multiple reasons why people vote and the presence of a metric that is the majority doesn’t prove anything.
I don’t see any accusation of racism in the article.
It is implied in the title and thrust of the article. Otherwise the title and article are pointless. It’s like saying US citizens voted in this election. The only reason for categorizing is to make a point.
Given the huge statistical alignment it is appropriate to point out the race factor. You are assuming the intent of the author which in this case does not necessarily follow from your conclusion.
Paul, my point is that it means nothing as you can state that about many a president.
Where did this article say accuse anyone of racism?
I DO think that – within the body of Christ – we need to discuss the gap between Black Christians and white and Latino Christians. And I’m not just talking about politically either.
As a Black evangelical who attended a predominantly white Christian middle school, grew up in a predominantly Black church, and has been part of two predominantly white churches over the last ~16 years, I saw, felt and experienced a LOT of differences – some that were pleasantly surprising and some that were very alienating and concerning. VERY few of the latter were directly addressed. Most were answered with polite Christianese like “I hope you know I love you with the love of the Lord” or “I see you as my sister in Christ, not a color” that were little more than performative.
Honestly, I am praying and questioning if it’s time for me to return to a predominantly Black church.
Edward Gilbreath wrote a fantastic book on this. As the church, we should be MORE united than the world, setting an example of how unifying a relationship with Christ can be – not merely reflecting the world’s division within our congregations and pews.
Marin, I concur with your point but I suspect reducing the gap would not similarly merge political opinion. I would view the unity more fully shown in core beliefs and love for one another.
Regarding your experience, you don’t deserve that. I think people don’t realize their real attitudes are obvious even when they say otherwise. I think there is a lot of talk about their church being welcoming to ethnicities but no desire in the long run to really live in community knowing it is more comfortable to be with those like you.
Joe – you could be right. From my experience in both predominantly Black and white churches, there are diverging beliefs on the goal and purpose of the church which point to the (alleged) objectives of different political parties. Won’t go into too much detail, as I’ve said it before, but the Black church is rooted in a lot of activism (hence why so many civil rights leaders and movements started there) as a way of demonstrating one’s faith, with “just sitting in pews praying for what’s going on outside to get better” seen as being passive. When I’ve been to white churches, it was steeped in a “the way to bring about change is by saving individual souls”, with any emphasis on activism viewed as a false gospel.
I believe there is truth in BOTH sides, and that if we were more unified, we could really drive change by implementing BOTH approaches (activism AND saving souls).
And yes, that does include being willing to get uncomfortable.
(Thank you for acknowledging my experience).
Your first sentence is accurate in the sense of white Christians being behind GOP candidates. On the other hand the support was not strong enough for a win for Romney, McCain, (wasn’t Dole in there somewhere?). What amazes me is that Trump won despite being so deeply despised by so many, even by many who held their nose while checking the box for him!
Ron, they were weaker candidates though. Yep I forgot about Dole.
Interesting comments here, the reason Trump won was because he had some real ideas. I work with a food bank, our numbers have jumped from 40 on average to over 150! From mostly working poor to middle class now. VP Harris when asked said she wouldn’t have changed a thing in thr last 4 years, my life was better under Trump so for the first time I voted for him. I agree with an article I read from Dave Ramsey , I am not voting for a pastor, I am voting for someone to get the job done. When you’re hungry and struggling to pay your bills and living paycheck to paycheck not much else matters. Maybe some of you are rich enough that it doesn’t affect you.
We’ve spent the last 4 years recovering from a disastrous pandemic response in 2020 where at least a million people died unnecessarily because of trump’s incompetence. Yes it’s been hard, but Americas economic recovery has been faster than any other developed country.
How soon we forget.
Such comments as “I’m not looking for a pastor” are unBiblical justifications – there are MANY verse in scripture that speak to the importance of character among leaders, AND there are MANY verses that show God punishing leaders for idolatry, disobedience, and other sins.
As for “maybe some of you are rich enough that it doesn’t affect you” – this is a huge assumption. We must understand everyone has different priorities and dealbreakers. So while someone may be feeling the economic pinch, perhaps certain character traits (e.g., arrogance, lying) or issues (e.g., abortion) were priorities that overrode that.
Speaking for ME, Trump has said and done things going back to the 80s that have been completely disparaging and disrespectful of my community. Even when I was willing to see if there’s been growth and change, his “doubling down” reinforced it as MY dealbreaker. Am I disappointed that it isn’t a dealbreaker for others? Yes. But just as I don’t like people trying to justify or gaslight me with “here’s why it was ok he said/did that” or “you misunderstood” (which can come across as trying to make THEMSELVES feel or look better), I know others don’t like me making assumptions about them (e.g., “you’re clearly a racist”) either.
We all had a right to make a personal choice, and we did. If anyone feels the need to “spiritualize” it with cliche Christianese, ask yourself why and take that to the Lord.
I found “your” comments interesting. “Real Ideas?” In the debate he said he had “concepts” of a plan, after many years. Any idea how much it will cost to round up and deport millions of people? Any idea how it will affect the work force, including his? Did you know “he”
continues to employ “undocumented immigrants”?
Thank you for working with those in need. We had a lifetime pandemic. Production was lost because so many employees died. The whole world is trying to recover. Supply and demand means higher prices. Would you expect someone who just had surgery to resume normal physical activities, at the pre-surgery pace, immediately? We are doing better than every other country.
We are spoiled with an abundance of wealth in this country, so suffering isn’t our thing. However, perseverance and endurance are part of the strength of our faith.
Remember the poor widow who gave in spite of being poor? Dave Ramsey is a wealthy person. How much has he contributed to those in need. How about us?
Very interesting that you think someone who stole from his own charity to purchase a larger than life portrait of himself, will be the answer.
¡Dios los bendiga!
This needs to be heard. The talking heads do not understand this and fall into their group think that it’s primarily about racism and sexism. I disagree with Ramsey, largely due to the definition of megalomania. But it’s the trolls who want you to think the worst about those you disagree with. We should be wise to their schemes.
(BTW, trolling does not refer to a website like this that intends to provoke introspection for evangelical conservatives. I think a lot of people fail to understand the difference.)
Ok… so it’s just about your pocketbook? (You’re not the first I’ve heard this from…) Not sure that’s a good measure to making these kinds of consequential choices…
If that’s the main measure for many, including Christians, what does that say/reveal?
Andrew, when people say pocketbook, they usually are not meaning they are greedy and want to make tons of money. It is a term about one’s budget and that is usually directly linked to the people in their lives. If a person has to take a second job to sustain their family, that is precious time away from family. It means their family has to suffer more because maybe they have to skip a meal. And just like a business, if one can make a little to save and better their station in life (such as leaving a bad neighborhood) so the better. Thus, you can’t so quickly conclude their’s some heart issue. This is a practical reason that connects with responsible people who are trying to live life. However, this just scratches the surface for reasons that are much deeper.
Joe Myers, I agree. It is the subtle words in a statement and the source used. 13.6 percent of US citizens are black like myself. For example, “ It’s hard to overcome the white God gap in a place like Pennsylvania, or Michigan and Wisconsin,” Ryan Burge”. Words like “white”. Then, “It’s going to be more of a multiethnic conservative, white-dominated Christianity that unequivocally votes Republican.” A more apt description is white representation vs white dominated due to the percentage of the actual population. Second the ethnic adjectives followed by a word with intent is biased. Third, this particular author has used this subtle words to convey a false narrative thus leading to a wrong goal. Objective writing. This is more perspective than reporting reality.
“ All they are thinking is, gas is expensive, bread is expensive, milk is expensive,” he said. “Let’s try something else. That’s the story.”. No it’s a narrative under an umbrella of a plethora of narratives in this election. It’s time for a unified narrative and draw us together in Christ and as Americans. We need to restore Objective Truth vs Subjective Narratives.
There was a time when talented people “created” from their imaginations to entertain us. Then came the “reality” shows, where people amuse us with “their” shocking behavior.
We have become addicted to buffoonery. Why else would women laugh at, and support, a man who fantasized about his female opponent being pummeled by a champion boxer – with a history of abusing women?
People can attempt to justify voting for such a person, but they cannot deny his bad behavior.
“Can the leopard change his spots? Then may you also do good, who is accustomed to doing evil” – Jerimiah 13:23
“When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; but when a wicked man rules, the people groan.” Proverbs 29:2
It is only a matter of time before it is déjà vu all over again. Apparently, many have forgotten how exhausted we were, hence the 2020 lost. “Believe me,” regret will set in – “quickly.”
Christians should against evil agendas.
You all continue to ignore Black Christians. Trump won more Black votes an any Rep of any time. Stop ignoring us!
I don’t know why Black Christians are not included as a category in some of these polls. You make a good point.
Julie, and this is why I conclude the intent of the article is about racism. If the point was to truly describe the statistics for a category, then you look at all of them.
I can’t report on a category for which no data was collected.
When I said “all of them” I think I had in mind, all the range within that category. So when “white” and “Hispanic” is cherry picked from the entire range of “race”, that’s trying to make a point.
Julie, my first thought was that surely that must exist somewhere. But a little googling landed me on one major news site where part of their readout included, in order:
Religion
Religion among white voters
White born-again or evangelical Christian
And then they move on to other categories. Literal face palm. It feels racist. Or at least ignorant.
Or perhaps Black Christians aren’t mentioned because we overwhelmingly voted for Harris, and the focus of the article is on the groups that delivered the WH to Trump.
I personally didn’t see that as racism, but as an understanding of the groups where Trump did perform strongly and win a significant percentage of the vote.
And voting groups have been divided into various age, gender, education, race, class, and religious demographics since they started tracking and studying them. Even political strategists do this as part of determining how to better reach specific groups. It’s not about “who is better or worse” (which is where discrimination comes in), but about “what resonates with that group and why”. All have differing needs and interests, yet equal in value
The article does mention black Christians in the paragraph on multiethnic churches. Also, I believe the gain in that ethnic group was not nearly as significant as among Latinos.
Amen! From a white guy!
Both political parties have policies that affirm or abandon Christian principles.
I am amazed, dumfounded, confused, astonished, shocked, amused … that you think a party that is an actual representation of “America,” the “Rainbow Coalition” – white, black, Native American, Hispanic, Asian, Jewish, Indian, Middle Eastern, men, women, wealthy, working class, highly educated, uneducated, rural, big city, immigrant, gay, straight, pro-life, anti-abortion, Christian, Atheist, Muslim… ignores ANY group?
Lol! How can they? They are comprised of representatives of EACH group.
I am totally perplexed as to how you think the GOP, which is pretty homogenized, looks out for you more!? Have you seen the GOP? Where is the diversity or representation? Have you heard the GOP?
I apologize if I omitted any group.
The one group I did omit is the “white supremacy group.” They are ALL MAGA.
What in the world?
October 30th on Fox & Friends, Trump admitted to a plan to abolish the Department of Education, which is in project 25. They have denied and affirmed it all at the same time.
They do not want slavery or Native American history taught and will punish any school that teaches all of American’s history.
They believe DEI represents minorities, of any kind, including women, being handed success undeservingly, and at the expense of a rightly qualified non-minority, because they believe minorities are intellectually inferior and lacking in work ethic.
Yes! They are thinking about minorities, just not in the manner you think they are.
Debra, Project 2025 was just a think tanks platform no different than liberal think tank platforms. If there is no department of education, then there will be no federal enforcement to set such regulation or punish schools who teach no slavery or Native American history. That is contradictory. Maybe you meant the contrary, that a lack of federal department of education would not be able to punish a singular history interpretation? We don’t trust states to manage it? We don’t trust local school districts to do it? This is why the 10th amendment was so important. Local control is best to maintain peace for most issues in life. Making every issue a federal issue is the primary cause for so much strife and polarization (because it permits a small group of “experts” to run the whole country on that issue). I’m not saying I would outright eliminate it and many before have claimed they would but it didn’t happen. Even though it is an ideal position, priorities and practicality within a four year timeframe makes elimination an impossibility.
Regarding your DEI comment, you essentially are only talking about one sliver of implementation – quotas. The result in behavior of those hiring is the unintended consequence of such policy not because of beliefs on inferiority. Beliefs of inferiority is actually a premise for quotas. But anyways, there are way more reasons why DEI should not be part of primary school curriculum.
Let’s face it, a centralized power in education is the easiest way to indoctrinate a nation’s people.
Joe – Just want to chime in here regarding DEI and the way it is being misrepresented here. Quotas have been illegal since the Bakke supreme court ruling in the late 70s. Quotas are bad for everyone, as they “set aside” a specific number of slots to be filled by specific a group – and even if there are MORE in that group who are qualified, the “extra” candidates must be turned away to avoid going over that number.
DEI is also more than affirmative action (which, BTW, has benefitted white women more than any other group). DEI includes programming for women, veterans, the disabled, the LGBTQIA community, the neurodivergent, religious groups, multi-generational workforces – all protected classes. Misinformation and selective reporting has everyone obsessed and overindexing on DEI when it comes to race; it’s interesting for me to see clients who took the bait that are now looking foolish when I say “Oh, that veterans outreach and training program? That falls under DEI. That mother’s return to work program? DEI. Accessibility programs for your disabled employees? Yep, that’s DEI too! Exploring ways to better onboard and include your neurodivergent hires? DEI!” And the list goes on.
Furthermore, let’s have some personal accountability around beliefs of inferiority. If anyone believes someone is inferior (due to race, gender or whatever), that is THEIR OWN fault. Not the law’s fault. Not a program’s fault. Not “that person who took their job”‘s fault. Nor is it the fault of a company that didn’t hire them or school that didn’t admit them. IT IS THEIR OWN FAULT.
Definitely agree about accountability but DEI sort of fills in that gap as some organization’s way of “being ok”. And I’m consistent, if DEI is used for other areas, that is not right either. And even where I can see one area as needing “accommodation”, the disabled, there are limits. But in my experience, the most obvious use has been regarding race.
Thank you Joe for helping me see things from another perspective.
The pattern is to camouflage everything. It’s like “castings pearls before swine.” Is there “any” discernment, any limitation, when it comes to this guy?
“Debra, Project 2025 was just a think tanks platform”
Yes, but it is It is comprised of people from his past and perhaps future administration, those who influence him, and endorsed by his vice president. So, when he says he knows nothing about it, just like he didn’t send covid supplies to Russia, until Putin confirmed he did, he’s lying!
Trump himself said he would withhold funding from schools specifically teaching slavery and Native American history. Why do we study history? Because past can be prolog. Those two things might be inconvenient truths, but they are “foundational” elements of our history.
“We don’t trust states to manage it? … Making every issue a federal issue is the primary cause for so much strife and polarization”
No! Sin is the reason for strife. Educating our nation’s children, is one the necessary functions of the Federal Government. We should assure every child has a proper education simply to keep our nation intelligent, productive, and competitive in the world.
“Speak English! One of those ideas meant to degrade immigrants – right? The joke is on us. We are one of the few counties that speaks only one language.
“Regarding your DEI comment…’
You are making distinctions without differences. The whole DEI, Affirmative Action, Woke criticisms are mere justifications for racism. Trump likes to call people “lo IQ.” Hilarious coming from him with his vast vocabulary. It’s not just immature, it is silly, it is unbiblical. EVERY human being originated from Adam and Eve.
I’m not denying sin is the primary problem for behavior when it comes to strife. My point assumes that. If you believe systems of government can be good or bad, then I would rephrase my point like this: federal control into every detail of life is more bad since it can promote strife among larger groups of people because they feel like they have no control.
On DEI, it is easy to use the words of a few to conclude those that disagree with it, that they are trying to justify racism.
“Speak English! One of those ideas meant to degrade immigrants – right? The joke is on us. We are one of the few counties that speaks only one language.”
Not to mention these sorts of comments demonstrate ignorance of several things:
1. We do not have a national language. The USA is one of the few countries that doesn’t have an official language (not even at the state level), mostly because we are “a nation of immigrants”, AND…..
2. We got half our land from acquiring Mexico, where Spanish was already spoken (and actually is the official language). So, we literally went into Mexico and then turned to the people and demanded they stop speaking their native language. It’s downright funny.
3. We have ZERO problem traveling and living all over the world and refusing to learn or speak the native languages of the countries we visit. In my last trip to France, I intervened when an American couple was yelling at the desk agent at the currency exchange to “Speak English! How is it you don’t know English?!”
4. It is a demonstration of both high intellect and commitment to speak multiple languages – especially if learned as an adult. The fact we take such pride in only speaking one (and demand everyone speak ours) is not the flex we think it is.
B. D. Howard Jr.:
Your words: “Educating our nation’s children, is one the necessary functions of the Federal Government.”
No, actually, it’s not. Educating our nation’s children is up to parents and individual school districts across the land. The reason our public schools are not actually educating many students very well is precisely because of Federal interference in daily decisions. It is often also the result of Teachers’ Unions trying to maintain power over decisions that directly affect our children.
B. D. Howard Jr.:
Your words: “EVERY human being originated from Adam and Eve.”
Correct. However, not every human being is equally talented, intelligent, or gifted. We are all very different when it comes to intelligence and other traits given directly to each of us from God’s hands. Trying to create scenarios where everyone ends up with equal outcomes is an attempt doomed to failure.
“A talent is something that you are instinctually born with that gives you unique skills and abilities. Talent is set apart from knowledge in that it is not a learned behavior, although it can be strengthened and practiced. The Bible tells us that we are all born with distinct talents and gifts that set us apart from each other. When you discover the talents that God has given you and you use them to glorify Him, you will experience a full life! Our loving Lord wants us to feel whole and complete, and it is through talents that we can find our unique calling in life!…”
https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-talent/#google_vignette
cinthia-
Actually the role of the government in regards to education (specifically providing free “public” education) did expand as part of addressing educational disparities (and subsequent opportunities) that had occurred by race, gender, class, and disability status. It was part of legally requiring everyone have access to a basic education regardless of these protected classes. The difficult question is, what does it look like to decide that now, and by whom.
And while it is clear we all have different gifts, talents and abilities, yet another challenge is “who gets to decide who has access to what opportunity”? We see in countries like the UK where generations of kids were funneled into certain schools and opportunities – often based on social class and presumed ability – at a very young age. (Much of this was to protect the standing of the
higher social classes, yet I digress). Do we really want any person or entity to tell a 6 year old “we can tell you’ll never be that smart, so from here on out, it’s only community college or trades for you”? Part of what makes this nation great is that if you work hard and demonstrate ability, you can go where you want – you aren’t stuck in some funnel because of what someone or some entity said you can or can’t do at any age (granted we have had flaws regarding discrimination like Jim Crow and the very delayed passing of the Americans with Disabilities Act, but for the most part, we got it right IMO). We have the most socially and economically mobile nation in the world – and I think that’s a huge advantage.
Marín,
Acuerdo!
Gracias!
HaHa! I always learn something from you.
Dr. Cynthia,
Not sure what you’re saying exactly, but God has given us “gifts” such as exhortation, faith, and hospitality, for the good of the church.
Apparently, the body of Christ is lacking in gifts such as leadership, mercy, wisdom, and discernment these days.
Clearly, physical and mental conditions limit abilities. However, it is evil, arrogant, and stupid to suggest God made us intellectually inferior or superior, simply by race. God made us all smart in a myriad of ways.
Nathanael didn’t think much of anyone from Nazareth – until he actually met Jesus.
We are all brothers and sisters in Christ,
and Gods Word says that we are all from one nation, and one blood, so we all have the same DNA.
Keep the faith, Love you, sister
This is the best summary I’ve read or heard for why DJT will become #47. I also think it is correct, and encouraging, to see Christian Nationalism as less of a driving factor than it is believed to be.
As a white evangelical, because of my being horrified by an endless list of things about DJT, I could not vote for him. Because of those things I was strongly tempted to vote for Harris, but bc she was primarily running on abortion rights, I couldn’t cross that line. I did the only thing I knew to do – not vote for POTUS (my response in ’16 and ’20 also).
DJT, a true politician in the best and worst sense of the word, understands all of this. I am convinced that much of what he espouses is probably not out of conviction. Even if it is, DJT is about power. Those who voted for him believe he will fulfill our wishes and / or that he can be tamed – he cannot! They are deceived. Also the “love fest” ends when he no longer has any use for us.
If anyone can direct me to an article for why “we” chose DJT in the first place (over much better options in ’16 and ’24 primaries), I would be grateful.
This author is incorrect. President Trump also received a higher percentage of Black voters than in the previous elections. The people chose to be “better off than they were four years ago”.
So christians approve of lying, theft, and adultery. They harbor groomers in their churches while claiming to be more righteous than everyone else. Got it.
And you approve of a woman sleeping her way to the top in CA. So what are our choices? Christians prayed and voted for the least evil of the choices.
Just stop W Scott Moyer! Do you not take the 9th commandment seriously? Thou shalt not bear false witness!
Time and again I read comments like that. It is just confounding to me that Christians will speak so recklessly and untruthfully.
Really? Before you mention “evil and choices”, please review the “evil choices” you made in your post.
CS Lewis said, “Prayer doesn’t change God, it changes me.”
Pray – without ceasing.
Can we please stop with the whataboutism and moral relativism in attempt to sound
more righteous?
Can we please stop with the “Christians voted for Trump” trope? There are believers who voted for Harris too.
And can we please stop repeating this degrading, sexist, half truth about Harris? You don’t get to where she did without being smart and accomplished (top of her law school class, etc). You don’t have to vote for her or like her to acknowledge that.
Tim, if you buy products from companies, then you likely approved liars, thieves, and those who hide abuse by that logic. So the problem here is what does “approve” mean in the context of an election? Also those are very wide generalizations especially about harboring groomers.
When one has a binary choice one has to choose the least harmful option.
I desperately wanted Nikki Haley but obviously that’s not what happened.
In a space of advocacy against abuse I had to consider President Trumps history (definitely problematic) against the results of President Biden’s reckless border policy. Through that abdication of control, the cartels (who make their wealth from violence, human trafficking, sex trafficking and drug trafficking), have been made exceedingly more powerful. By the governments own numbers there are approximately 320,000 missing unaccompanied minors. We can only imagine the hell many of them are living under.
So 81% of Evangelicals voted for Trump.
To be honest, I have never heard more abusive and wicked rhetoric from any one person in any walk of life than from Donald Trump over the past 9 years.
Yet White Evangelicals just line up to vote for the guy.
One would think Evangelicals leaders and Pastors would have raised a concern over the many years, but nearly all have remained quiet as church mice.
Sometimes power and the quest for power eclipses everything else. Sadly many Evangelicals also use ‘selective literalism’ (As Randall Balmer puts it) to interpret the Bible. Select verses are quotes deemed literal and others are dismissed as figurative when they were intended to be taken literally.
Or a verse or section of scripture are quoted and are used to support an argument or implied argument (When none is stated) and those verses are intended to ‘trump’ selections of scripture that state anything to the contrary.
It is Sociology 101. It is “assimilation.” In society, some in marginalized groups, adapt to the dominant group, even when that group devalues them.
He is an open book. It is no secret or opinion that he is a racist. “For as a man thinks in his heart, so is he” Proverbs 23:7. Why would you believe someone who has shown disdain for you, would care about what is in your best interest?
It is a survival technique, a coping mechanism, like “Stockholm Syndrome” where a victim develops positive feelings for their oppressor over time.
Sadly, it is “tokenism”. The practice of including marginalized groups for appearance sake only. It is the awkwardness of knowing that they were laughing as if you weren’t even there.
It is civics, where ordinary citizens aren’t aware of how government actually works, so they don’t recognize bravado when they hear it.
It is where reputable news sources have been replaced with opinions, conspiracies, propaganda, and foolishness.
Do people know or care that Fox News, Alex Jones, Newsmax, My Pillow, and Rudy paid millions for lying? Yet, they continue to lie, that Tik Tok, YouTube, and FaceBook are not monitored for misinformation?
What happens when the most powerful person in the world is given reason to believe that nothing they do or say, no matter how offensive will undo their loyal following?
One of the most devastating consequences of Trumpism is the devaluing of the trained, professional, standards-abiding journalist class.
Julie is trained and experienced. Her views are well known, but when evidence does not meet her standards, she
Does. Not. Print.
This was demonstrated recently with her reporting on the Lawson scandal. She _knew_ from tips/sources that the young woman was deeply connected to TMUS/GCC. She kept asking for official confirmation. But she did not go to press until it was confirmed. Her motives–and her credibility–were attacked by a particularly sloppy Christian “journalist” when she repeatedly asked for confirmation of the connection. But then this same individual rushed to print once the truth was revealed without admitting how foolish he made himself appear.
But most people now are not interested in where the facts lead. Christians, as the “truth bearers,” instead look for the sources that confirm the conclusions they have already arrived at. They will deny malfeasance by their beloved pastor as easily as they deny malfeasance by their beloved President.
Because, at the end of the day, there is no shortage of voices who will tell them what they already know to be true “in their hearts.”
To All:
We can continue to disagree on many issues and we can continue to debate each other in the public square. As Americans, we have the wonderful privilege of speaking our minds freely, without fear of recrimination. How marvelous!
That said, as Believers, we must temper our speech with kindness, humility, and love. Jesus used His voice so well – speaking the truth in love. He spoke softly sometimes, he yelled at other times, and sometimes he remained silent.
If we follow His example to the best of our ability, our country will heal. If not, the Church itself will continue to experience disruptive influences that attempt to tear it apart.
Of course, as Believers, we know that God holds His people close every day and He will not let His people be eliminated by evil.
Politicians come and go, Presidents come and go, people come and go. But…
2 Corinthians 4: 17, 18:
“These hard times are small potatoes compared to the coming good times, the lavish celebration prepared for us. There’s far more here than meets the eye. The things we see now are here today, gone tomorrow. But the things we can’t see now will last forever.”
Chin up, fellow Believers. God is in control.
Pyrrhic Victory: a victory with such staggering losses that the win wasn’t worth it.
Americans: “President Elect Trump”
American’s Children – Born and to be born: “Thank you, Lord!”
As of a few days ago ( votes are still being counted in a few areas of the country ) Harris UNDER performed Biden in EVERY county in the U.S. So what is with the misleading title of this article?
I voted for Trump for 4 reasons: He’s not a globalist, he’s the best friend Israel has ever has in the White House, our enemies hate and fear him ( Hamas issued a cease-fire the day after Trump won ) and our (non-woke) members of the military love him because he is more resolute in defending our country – and backing it up with action – than even Reagan was.
God knows why EVERY person voted the way they did because HE ALONE sees the heart.
Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords NOW, and history is HIS STORY, and His word states that He alone picks who rulers are.
Kudos to Dr. Cynthia Norbeck’s closing comments above!
Finally some of the people weren’t still fooled by the left’s insistent bearing false witness against Trump. He isn’t a saint, but not a blatant communist and liar like Kamala or Joe, both of which probably didn’t even run the government.