Final Staff Letter about James MacDonald Released: “He Views Humiliating and Belittling People as a Normal Way…”

By Julie Roys
James MacDonald Harvest

Disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, created a “culture of fear” at Harvest Bible Chapel where “loyalty” was “prioritized over righteousness.” MacDonald also viewed “humiliating and belittling people as a normal way of reprimanding their mistakes” and reduced grown men “to tears because of stress and anxiety.”

That’s according to a letter by former Harvest staff member, Sandy Song—one of six important letters delivered to the elder board in February 2019. According to former Harvest Elder Dan George, these letters by former staff were key to MacDonald’s termination from Harvest on February 13, 2019. The other six letters were published more than a year ago. Song’s letter is being published here for the first time.

Song, who worked at Harvest from 2002—September 2019, tells of toxic culture at the church where MacDonald regularly raged on employees. But she says employees were pressured into silence and urged to believe “James to be the ultimate authority over us.” She writes:

We have learned that talking to our supervisors or even the elders is not only discouraged, but it could cost us our jobs because we are unwilling to go with the flow and are seen as disloyal. James has instilled a culture in his employees that what he wants must happen at that very moment no matter the cost. Failure to do so means being humiliated or reprimanded in front of others – being belittled in a way that no person, especially at a church, should ever feel. . . .

I have seen multiple occasions where James has lost his temper and has screamed and even cursed at employees because he did not get what he wanted. . . . (D)ue to his status as the senior pastor of this mega­church, I believe that he views humiliating and belittling people as a normal way of reprimanding their mistakes. This is why he never cycles around to apologize for his words/actions.

Song gives specific examples of MacDonald’s “explosive anger” and outrageous demands on staff. Several of these occurred during Harvest’s Risen for the Nations World Tour in 2015, which had stops in Haiti, Kenya, Nepal, Malaysia, and Israel:

James was perpetually late almost every day for meetings and even church services. Even though he was informed the night before and the morning of what the schedule was, he chose to follow his own program. This caused us to have to change plans, transportation and even delay church services with people already present because he was not around. We were consistently having to figure out a Plan B because he would not show up in the lobby dressed on time. And he would often be upset at the new plan because it did not meet his expectations. I traveled with 4 men daily and I saw the stress they were under because of being yelled at regularly and made to feel incompetent. They hardly slept more than just a few hours almost every night of that 4-week tour due to having to work around the clock and re-adjust to what James wanted. . . .

One example of James’ irrational behavior was when we were in Kenya. It was the inaugural service for their new building. . . . James showed up an hour late for the first service with hundreds of people in attendance. Prior to the second service, he decided that he wanted to have a baptism service. The church did not have a baptismal. The pastor had called around and found a church down the street that had a baptismal and would allow us to use their building. James insisted that the baptisms must happen on site and grew very irate. So during the second service, several of us were scrambling around trying to find a solution. They ended up cutting down a neighbor’s water tank from their house. It was drought season in Kenya and it was unclear how soon he would be able to replace it to have running water in his house. . . .

Another example is when James was flying from Israel to Malaysia. I do not know the specific circumstances, but James caused a scene on the airplane and got himself kicked off the flight. Upon arrival in Malaysia, rather than simply take the blame or even say nothing, he blamed HBF staff for booking him on a bad flight and claimed it was a missed layover. He consistently called HBF staff at all hours of the night demanding flight itineraries be changed because there was a layover longer than 2 hours or because he simply did not want to stay any longer.

Song also talks about MacDonald’s sudden disbanding of Harvest Bible Fellowship (HBF) in 2017. According to several inside sources, MacDonald disbanded HBF when HBF pastors discovered that Harvest had inappropriately used fellowship funds for its own purposes. At the time, MacDonald also abruptly fired the entire HBF staff.

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“The impact of how that was handled and the ongoing harassment of ex-HBF employees caused several of them to have medical issues due to stress and it destroyed them emotionally,” Song wrote.

Song also documented several instances of “financial carelessness” by MacDonald. One of these involved HBF. Song said that when she was living in Romania, “I kept hearing about how funds that were designated specifically for missions had been used for HBC purposes.” Song said Harvest diverted $500,000 that had been raised for international church planting and spent it instead on a tech upgrade at Harvest.

Song also said that during the 2015 World Tour, MacDonald lavishly spent church money. This was at a time when Harvest’s debt totaled more than $48 million. She writes:

James traveled first class or with private planes to every destination and always had at least one person travel with him in first class. He would go on lavish excursions and eat at fancy restaurants and we paid a lot of money in change fees on flights because he was not happy with the itinerary even though it was presented to him prior to leaving for approval. At the end of the tour, he wanted to leave Haiti on Sunday night after service to go home, but his flight was scheduled on Monday. He was told that planes would not fly out of Jacmel because the runway was too short. He had HBF staff call the Haitian government to offer money to build a longer runway so that the plane would leave from there. When this request was refused numerous times, he had them call Missionary Aviation Fellowship which flies small private planes. Because they are a Christian organization, they do not fly on Sundays. However, enough money was offered to them to break their long-standing rule to fly James from Jacmel to Port-au-Prince so that he did not have to wait another day to fly home. I do not know the total sum of money that was spent on that tour, but I do believe all of the monies came from HBF funds.

In a recent video posted online, MacDonald and former elder Ron Duitsman refer to the account in Song’s letter about the return flight from Haiti. Duitsman states that the letter claimed that MacDonald had demanded to be flown home from Haiti in a private jet, which it does not.

Duitsman adds, however, that he flew down in his own, private jet to get MacDonald and bring him back from Haiti. Duitsman claims he paid for the flight, not Harvest.

Song concludes her letter by expressing hope that her letter will lead to “radical changes” and “greener pastures” at Harvest. For the past year, Song has worked for CityLine Bible Church—a former campus of Harvest Bible Chapel, which in 2019, became an independent church. According to an Instagram post by the church on November 16, Song is leaving staff and getting married.

UPDATE: The Roys Report reached out to Mission Aviation Fellowship to confirm Song’s account about the flights in Haiti. MAF confirmed through flight records that MAF’s Cessna Caravan flew from Jacmel to Port-a-Prince on Sunday, April 26, 2015, and the “cost sharing” amount paid by Harvest was less than $500. MAF said it doesn’t normally schedule flights on Sunday, but will do so for “national evangelists or other church speakers for something that might be out of the ordinary.” MAF also confirmed that the Jacmel airport could not accommodate larger aircraft due to the length of the runway and the weight of larger aircraft, which would damage the runway. MAF added that it “is confident the flight conducted for the group was well in line with typical practices that we use in our service to others all around the world.”

UPDATE: This article was updated to include Sandy Song’s recent employment transition.

Sandy Song’s Complete Letter:

Sandy Song


To view the other letters submitted by former Harvest staff, click links below:

  • Dean Butters (former HBC executive director of business operations)
  • Jacob Ross (former bodyguard of James MacDonald)
  • Dallas Jenkins (former HBC executive director of Vertical Church Films)
  • Dan Sumpter (former executive director of Walk in the Word)
  • Garrett Higbee (former HBC executive director of Biblical Soul Care




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45 thoughts on “Final Staff Letter about James MacDonald Released: “He Views Humiliating and Belittling People as a Normal Way…””

  1. The Babylon Bee posted earlier this week a satire piece entitled: “7 Easy Steps For Disgraced Pastors To Get Back Into The Spotlight ASAP”. It’s good parody because it sadly rings so true.

  2. So we know that James and Luke are jerks…where is his wife in all this? Is she the same or does James treat her like dirt too?

    1. @Lynn: I’m sure he treats her terribly too. But she also reported to him things that were said at retreats. So she’s not innocent.

    2. I firmly believe that Kathy is an active enabler as matriarch of the MacDonald clan. Proof is found in 1.} raising Luke to walk in the father’s footsteps. 2.) Just as Jezebel encouraged Ahab to continue his folly; Kathy has supported JMac’s sinful behavior without a whisper of dissent. A godly wife would be honest and speak the truth in love and show him his faults; not allow him to continue to make a fool of himself. (1 Samuel 25- David, Nabal and Abigail) Read Dean Butters’ letter and how JMac knew of his son’s crying. At the Pastor’s wife retreat, Dean’s wife shared some private information in a small group. Connect the dots in how JMac knew this later. Kathy is not the Proverb 31 woman who’s husband is respected at the city gate (v.23).

  3. James MacDonald; financially reckless sociopath! Those are characteristics for exactly what happened at HBC. He should be in prison. Sad.

    1. Peer pressure. The line of defense usually includes a thick layer of personal guilt to NOT do ANYTHING to damage the “overall ministry” which is leading souls to Christ, helping people, etc.. If one opposes MacDonald, then one feels (is my guess having been in a similar situation) like one then is hurting (which is not true) the entire church’s ministry which one cares about deeply – or one would not be in that board position usually to begin with.

  4. It seems as though everyone James got close to, they went wayward with him. Garrett Higbee turned around and treated others the same as James did and was proud of it! The whole thing is incredibly sad. It seems love of God and people became nothing in light of their power. It’s a warning to all of us!

      1. Can we just leave politics well enough alone? James MacDonald claimed to be a spokesman for Jesus Christ himself. That is the tragedy. Our standard for people serving in the body of Christ is “above reproach”, let’s leave the world and it’s flaws out of it. We are called to a higher standard. We serve a higher kingdom, this is what we, his people, should be about. Politics is filled narcissists, and Jesus said we should not be surprised by that, but we should weep when his own servants are clamoring for the gold of this earth.

        1. I agree. Both are malignant narcissists. One a church spokesman; one a nation’s spokesman. Both in a position to do, and have done, immense harm. Both in a position to return to power. Both with blind followers. Some in these comments.

      2. I was just thinking imagine James as a political ruler who no accountability outside the church or inside. But he makes Trump look like a saint. At least Trump unleashes his tongue at the most evil and corrupt things in our world and not at innocent humble servants of God.

  5. Reading stuff like this brings back so many horrible memories. I worked in a mega church/pastor who was also an ego maniacal abusive leader. He would regularly humiliate staff in meetings etc. This is cultish at its highest form. There may not be any Kool-Aid but this is cult behavior.

  6. I worked very closely with James and after seeing his behavior for a few months, gladly resigned from HBC. He treated the church like he was a belligerent CEO, not a pastor. It was beyond spiritual abuse, it was calculated, purposeful, and straight up evil. This kind of behavior was very consistent. I agree wholeheartedly with Sandy, as she mentioned this being normal for him. I never once saw him offer an apology for his actions, including the many offensive things that were said to me personally.

    For those who are “forgiving” of James’ behavior, don’t be fooled. If you watch his recent videos, he is consistency trying to spin the story and makes most of it about how he has been wronged. But his details never add up. He’s good at throwing out a lot of information that confused, more than adds clarity. For someone who considers himself a man of God, he seems to be fixated on making things right for himself (and mainly his bank account). Why would someone who fears the Lord and not man, need to constantly speak up and make sure their “side of the story” is heard. This is just another tactic of James to manipulate, and ultimately, get people to start tithing to his bank account again.

    James is madly resilient and won’t stop until he’s “seen” the way he sees fit. Thank you Julie for continuing to share these stories. They are important to informing others of the wolf that this man truly is.

    1. Thanks for sharing that. It is a very interesting account. I too was one who liked Jame’s preaching. It wasn’t something I actively sought out, but when it played on Moody, sometimes I found it interesting enough to leave the dial there.

      One of the Christian radio shows I listen too has that dead air at the end of their internet broadcasts. And sometime you catch a bit of the tech people’s conversation. I’ve been impressed at how clean and mundane their chat is even when it appears they don’t know anyone is listening. Yikes, when you hear something like you heard from James.

    1. @CM “James and his crime family should be doing the perp walk”
      No perp walk for them. In fact Luke MacDonald is starting up a new church in the Schaumburg area.

    2. CM;

      If you believe in the afterlife and that God will call all to account for every thought, word, and deed, I wouldn’t hold God in contempt for failing to bring justice here and now. But my words are simply the words of man; God’s words are unfailing, true, and eternal. The following Bible passages should strike fear in the heart of every man, and even more so for someone like James MacDonald who I suspect could quote many of these passages word for word. Hmm. Wait just a second. Isn’t there another in the Bible from old who knew the scriptures, could quote Scripture, and in spite of it all, demanded to be worshiped in the place of God? He had access to Heaven and “knew” the Ancient of Days, the King of kings, Lord of lords, Jesus the Christ. Yet simply having an ‘intimate’ knowledge of God doesn’t equate with saving faith. May the following passages serve as a loving warning to those with ears to hear and eyes to see.

      Jeremiah 2:19
      Your own evil will discipline you; your own apostasies will reprimand you. Think it over and see how evil and bitter it is for you to abandon the Lord your God and to have no fear of Me. This is the declaration of the Lord God of Hosts.

      James 3:1
      Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.

      2 Timothy 3:1-9
      But know this: Difficult times will come in the last days. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, without love for what is good, traitors, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to the form of godliness but denying its power. Avoid these people! For among them are those who worm their way into households and capture idle women burdened down with sins, led along by a variety of passions, always learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so these also resist the truth, men who are corrupt in mind, worthless in regard to the faith. But they will not make further progress, for their lack of understanding will be clear to all, as theirs was also.

      2 Peter 2:20-22
      For if, having escaped the world’s impurity through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in these things and defeated, the last state is worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness than, after knowing it, to turn back from the holy command delivered to them. It has happened to them according to the true proverb: A dog returns to its own vomit, and, “a sow, after washing itself, wallows in the mud.”

      Luke 12:47-48
      And that slave who knew his master’s will and didn’t prepare himself or do it will be severely beaten.  But the one who did not know and did things deserving of blows will be beaten lightly. Much will be required of everyone who has been given much. And even more will be expected of the one who has been entrusted with more.

      Hebrews 10:26-31
      For if we deliberately sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire about to consume the adversaries. If anyone disregards Moses’ law, he dies without mercy, based on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment do you think one will deserve who has trampled on the Son of God, regarded as profane the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know the One who has said, Vengeance belongs to Me, I will repay, and again, The Lord will judge His people. It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God!

      Judges 2:17
      Yet they did not listen to their judges, for they played the harlot after other gods and bowed themselves down to them. They turned aside quickly from the way in which their fathers had walked in obeying the commandments of the Lord; they did not do as their fathers.

      2 Corinthians 11:13-15
      For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no great thing if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their destiny will be according to their works.

      Romans 14:12
      So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.

      Reading today’s letter from Sandy Song was perfectly consistent with what people of Harvest were given a window into who James MacDonald really was for decades. I lost count how many men MacDonald brought up on stage for some cheesy sermon illustration only to humiliate them. Surely I couldn’t have been the only person who noticed over the years how James seemed to get a real kick out of pushing people around on stage, embarrassing them.

      On top of that, after hearing 100s of his messages while a member at Harvest (1999-2011), I can honestly say a “typical” MacDonald message consisted of not much more than the following:

      * Story Time. A message of MacDonald’s wasn’t complete without him sharing some sort of boneheaded antic from his week. More often than not, these stories tended to take people’s gaze off of Christ and onto one big buffoon.

      * The Big Time. MacDonald regularly dropped the names of other well-known, popular Christians or dignitaries he purportedly rubbed shoulders with. He went to great lengths to ensure others knew just how important and influential MacDonald had become. Once again, MacDonald was very skilled at making much of himself.

      * Rant Time. More weeks than not, MacDonald would go on a rant over something that especially irked him during the week. And if he failed to take the opportunity to unload on a Sunday morning, fear not, there was a time when you could regularly read about his ramblings on his blog.

      * Confession Time. From time to time, MacDonald shared from the pulpit how he had blown out or fractured one relationship or another. After 30 years in the ministry, I’m pretty sure that number far exceeded 70 x 7.

      * Gospel-Law Time. Instead of sharing Law BEFORE Gospel (as Jesus did), MacDonald regularly confused his congregation by presenting the Gospel and THEN Law, putting a burden or yoke upon believers they were never meant to carry.

      * Hypocrisy Time. MacDonald rarely withheld the opportunity to preach to himself. For all intents and purposes, each week it was woefully apparent MacDonald’s lifestyle didn’t square with the Scriptures he had memorized. The words he preached to others were a fitting condemnation of himself. It’s strange to think that the Scriptures he taught to others were like arrows aimed inward toward a conscience seared long ago.

      * Offensive Time. The cross is offensive to the pride of every unregenerate, self-righteous heart. Unfortunately, MacDonald rarely missed an opportunity to add to the offense of the cross due to his harshness, abrasiveness, and arrogance while in and out of the pulpit.

      * Waste of Time. Many of MacDonald’s messages ended with some form of a manipulative, spirit-void, formulaic, altar-call (i.e. the practice of decisional regeneration) demonstrating his lack of trust in the power of the Gospel and of the Holy Spirit to awaken a sinner from death unto life. Apparently, MacDonald felt the need to help what was lacking in God‘s Word, God’s Gospel, and God’s Spirit.

      * Time’s Up. Arguably the one verse MacDonald shared as much as any other, Numbers 32:23 was prophetically proper and pertinent for such a phony pretender as MacDonald was and is.

      Unless James (and a host of other HBC partners in crime) repent unto salvation and cross over from death to life, I tremble to think how severe their judgment will be on the day God calls them into account.

      -Mike Medow
      Former HBC Member (1999-2011)
      Still Sounding the Alarm

  7. I would give anything to know why HBC entered into arbitration with this megalomaniac, a.k.a. James McDonald, after disqualifying him from ministry, and then giving him everything he wanted. As I said in an earlier post, the former and current governess at HBC stinks, and why people would continue to throw their support behind this place, (I don’t even think I can call it a church), is beyond my comprehension. Also, I wonder whatever became of his group of hatchet men, especially his main hatchet man, Rick Donald. I’m convinced, he, more than anyone is to blame for allowing James to run amok for so many years and do nothing about it, except collect a pretty good paycheck. To my knowledge, I don’t believe Rick has ever offered the congregation an explanation, apology, or requested forgiveness, and is probably unwilling to do so, because he still fears James and what kind of retaliation would be leveled against him. Don’t go away folks, the show is only starting! Sadly, more to come. What has been going on in the evangelical church over the last several decades makes me sick to my stomach.

  8. People that are truly saved, biblical Christians that walk out their salvation with fear and trembling, walk out spiritual growth and maturity through sanctification do not act like James. James disqualified himself by his actions, attitudes and conduct. The elders at the time essentially agreed that based on His actions, attitudes and conduct that he disqualified himself from ministry or any leadership role within Harvest or the greater church and rightly fired him. I have been in leadership roles in secular corporate America for 30 years and have never experienced the evil actions of hate like those James demonstrated for years. The Harvest system was sinful and broken and the sheep were battered by the Shepherd. Now, like many other disqualified pastors before him, James has unilaterally deemed himself qualified without demonstrating any fruit of repentance both privately and publicly. James should never be allowed to ever Pastor or lead a church In any capacity. He has proven himself untrustworthy and not above reproach. His continued actions demonstrate that he does not choose to honor God…….honor the King, by demonstrating any level of humility, Godly sorrow, or true biblical repentance. He appears to only honor himself. Stay away from this man. He remains dangerous.

  9. Has anyone made a “study” of JM physical appearance through the years parallel with his behavior? I look at his appearance and wonder WTH?

    1. Could you explain a little more what you mean? I don’t know a person’s
      Physical appearance brings clear condemnation upon his ministry. I am just curious for your thoughts.

    2. I am wondering that as well. And I wonder if any of the emotional instability can be tied into the time frame (2008) of a prostate cancer diagnosis – up to 2017-18 treatments. This is not a justification, just a question as to whether the cancer and/or treatments have affected him – anger, irritability, depression…

  10. Garrett Higbee was also mistreating people? If so, I find that very concerning, too, because he’s supposed to be a counseling bigwig.

  11. I am a medical professional, and the erratic behavior described here sounds a lot like people I know who have severe psychiatric disorders and/or addiction to drugs or alcohol (which often co-exist). In some secular workplaces, this type of behavior would have earned him a drug test. Maybe churches should have similar policies. In my opinion, the church as a whole needs to be much more savvy about recognizing and dealing with psychiatric and addiction issues.

  12. I have an upset stomach. I would love to minister to and love on Sandy Song and just thank her…..This whole thing is so sick but continues in churches all over the world and especially in the “mega-church” scene in the USA. I appreciated the article by Joseph Stowell’s son who was on staff at HBC too. “Fear and intimidation…” should such words even be connected with God’s House? We all think, wrongly, to say anything is “sin.” Wrong. I am not joking when I say, for me personally, “all roads lead back to Francis Chan’s ‘Letters to the Church.'” Julie, you call it rightly, “the evangelical industrial complex.” It can only be shut down, I think, by church’s with bi-vocational pastors so that $ does not become the goal. At first it usually is not, but over time….

  13. FightforChrist'schurch!

    It’s mindboggling to me that people could/would sit under this guy’s teaching, “Shepherding” (term used very loosely) for 5 years, 10 years, 2 or 3 DECADES! I walked in to the RM campus in summer of ’96 and was out of there by the end of spring ’97. Because my family had dealt with abusive church leaders in the late ’80’s, my “Fake Abusive Pastor Radar” is always on alert. Boy, I gave it a shot, but I did not like this church, it’s pastor or leadership attitude of “We are the best, no one does it as good as Harvest.”
    I remember the arrogance oozing from all parts of HBC, from a Pastor who managed to take God’s word and somehow make it about himself every week, to a song leader whose mic was louder than all other’s as he sang runs over the congregation (not worship, more of a concert), to the youth pastor (I had signed up to work in youth ministry at the time). None of anything I read here comes as a surprise to me.
    He was ALLOWED to become the monster he became because no one bothered to stop him, to the point where others jumped in and joined him in the muck and mire!
    Here’s the deal though, “Our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” Ephesians 6:12 THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH! Satan is having a field day with our so-called churches and you all keep giving the people Satan is using recognition for it. Narcissists LOVE even negative attention. Leave them be, father, son, wife, evil elders. God is a just God. God’s got this.
    I know friends who remain at HBC, not out of loyalty to any man, but to fight for Christ’s bride! Let them do it without judgment!
    Fight FOR Christ’s church, not against the ignorant people choosing to use it for personal gain.

  14. Vladimir Rikhlyuk

    I’ll never forgot the sermon James preached about Eli and his two wicked sons. I was starting to see Harvest for what it was.
    I volunteered in the student ministry for years so I knew Landon and was also in small group with him. I saw Luke and had a few interactions with him but noticed a lot about him when it came to his attitude.
    The sermon was unbelievably ironic. God’s word is in fact a mirror. JMac was probably oblivious to this irony.

  15. Why does nobody want to talk about Luke Macdonald’s porn addiction? Rumor has it, he even watched porn with High School Ministry students. This seems important….

    1. and sounds criminal. A person who would pee in a cup in front of a person they are interviewing for a job, place it on a table and tell the interviewee they can make them do whatever they want, is capable of doing anything.

  16. I watched the Documentary on Scientology named Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath. It described the mental abuse by the leader David Miscavige. In my opinion there is not much difference between David Miscavige and James Macdonald.

  17. rj not in chicago anymore

    A desire to help James…….
    After all that abuse this IS the definition of a cult.

    In response to the post on Miscavige – JMac has the same ‘qualities’.

    Just sad.

  18. 1 John 3:9-10 ” No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.”

  19. One of the WORST customers I’ve ever worked with. I was a vendor of there’s previously, and every employee I worked with had the same condescending attitude, and expected handouts because of their name. Ironically, one of them was charged with theft and I’m not surprised. I dreaded every time they would email or call.

  20. I’ve read on here where people are saying,” how could this happen- how could people allow this to happen?” It happened in my small town 30 years ago. People trusted blindly, not realizing they were / are responsible to Christ and His Word first. But when one is raised under such a person as JM- you arent taught that- ever. So, if you grow, you grow in a stilted faith. I hope the time of evangelical mega everything is done- all the “necessary” events, conferences, books= the industry of faith. Its sickening. In this country there has certainly been a time of using liberty for occasion of the flesh/ prosperity.

  21. I hold responsible every Elder, staff member, Bible teacher at HBC, fellow pastors and others who saw this abuse and said nothing! It should not surprise us that these things happen. The scandal is that so many people experienced it and saw it first hand and said nothing! Could JMac really be that intimidating and such a bully that good people stand by and do and say nothing. Shame on them!

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