Liberty University COVID outbreak
On August 25, 2021, thousands of students gathered for the semester kick-off Campus Community event at the Vines Center at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. (Photo: Andrew Snyder / Instagram)

Liberty’s COVID-19 Outbreak Grows as Hundreds More Test Positive

By Sarah Einselen

Hundreds more Liberty University students and employees have tested positive for COVID-19 since last Wednesday as the university entered what it called a “temporary mitigation period” in response to the growing outbreak.

The university was monitoring 488 active cases as of this Wednesday, including 430 students, Liberty’s COVID-19 dashboard showed. That’s up from 159 cases last week.

By contrast, several area universities with larger student populations have less than 50 active cases of COVID each, according to WSET-TV. These include:

  • Virginia Tech: 35 students tested positive as of Aug. 30
  • Virginia Commonwealth University: 29 active cases as of Aug. 31
  • University of Virginia: 47 active cases as of Aug. 31
  • James Madison University: 12 active student cases as of Aug. 29

Unlike these schools, Liberty’s mitigation protocols for COVID-19 doesn’t include a general mask mandate or COVID-19 vaccine, as The Roys Report reported last week. The growth of the campus outbreak this week hasn’t changed that.

“At this time, we have no plans to begin mandating masks for our student and/or employees,” Liberty spokesman Scott Lamb said in an email Thursday evening.

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Liberty encourages students and employees who’ve been vaccinated for COVID-19 to provide that documentation “as this information will be used to calculate and potentially reduce quarantine timeframe,” according to its website. However, Lamb wouldn’t say what percentage of Liberty’s students or employees were vaccinated for COVID-19.

Neither masking nor vaccination is listed in the university’s “best ways to prevent COVID-19,” even though they’re the top two recommendations from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Liberty does mandate that students be vaccinated for measles, mumps, rubella, meningococcal disease, tetanus, diphtheria, hepatitis B and polio. A tuberculosis screening is also required. But the COVID-19 vaccine is listed as “optional.”

Slightly more than 2% of the 15,000 residential students at the Lynchburg, Virginia campus had active cases as of Wednesday, according to the dashboard, which is updated weekly. One student was hospitalized as of Thursday afternoon, Lamb said.

The nearest major hospital, Centra Health Lynchburg General Hospital, had 76 patients hospitalized with COVID-19 as of Thursday, including 16 in the ICU, according to the hospital network’s dashboard. All but five were not fully vaccinated for the pandemic disease.

Liberty’s active cases include positive cases reported in the past 10 days for which quarantine hasn’t ended. All told, 535 cases have been reported since Aug. 22, the day before residential classes began. The dashboard last week appeared to show 88 more cases reported from Aug. 15-Aug. 21.

Last week, the outbreak pushed the Baptist campus to move on-campus classes online and implement other mitigation measures, The Roys Report previously reported. Classes went remote on Monday and are set to stay that way through Sept. 10. Large indoor gatherings were also suspended.

As of Wednesday, more than 1,500 students and employees were under quarantine instructions either due to a positive test result or because they’d recently been in close contact with someone who had COVID-19.

Students are allowed to go home or stay with friends off campus to quarantine, or may quarantine on campus. But a dorm that had been converted into quarantine housing for up to 204 COVID-positive students has filled up, Lamb told local TV station WSET.

Sarah Einselen is an award-winning writer and editor based in Texas.

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69 thoughts on “Liberty’s COVID-19 Outbreak Grows as Hundreds More Test Positive”

    1. I know; why do Newsom, Pelosi, Fauci, Obama, and the Democrat establishment keep breaking their own rules? They’re the ones who tell us its murder not to wear a mask, yet they keep getting caught without masks in crowded events; thus, by their logic they’re murderers. Don’t they know they’re killing people? Do they not love their neighbor?

      [. . . ]

        1. Problem, I’m not sure what “tribe” you’re referring to or what logs you have, but I certainly am not implementing authoritarian control over millions of lives and then breaking my own rules.

          No deflection here. My point is quite relevant. If they really believe that this virus is an existential threat only combatted by their rules, why do they disregard their own rules?

        1. Whataboutism requires that both parties are guilty of the same crime, in which one points to the other’s malfeasance as justification for their own actions. Thus, this does not apply to this situation. Those who oppose the Covid cult are not trying to run other people’s lives and coerce others into obedience to them. In other words, we’re not the ones making the (ridiculous) rules.

          What’s abhorrent is when the ones who are making the rules or are rabidly advocating for them break the rules they are so insistent on forcing others to submit to.

          Often, those who use the term whataboutism are exposing their own acceptance of brazen hypocrisy.

    2. Great news everyone. The PCR Tests are baseless. The FDA admitted that they never isolated the SARS-Cov-2. The CDC linked this document (FDA Reference Panel) on their webpage. In there own words, the virus was contrived. Their words not mine. Here’s an excerpt:

      During the early months of the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, clinical specimens [of the virus] were not readily available to developers of IVDs [in vitro diagnostics] to detect SARS-CoV-2. Therefore, the FDA authorized IVDs based on available data from contrived samples generated from a range of SARS-CoV-2 material sources (for example, gene specific RNA, synthetic RNA, or whole genome viral RNA) for analytical and clinical performance evaluation. While validation using these contrived specimens provided a measure of confidence in test performance at the beginning of the pandemic, it is not feasible to precisely compare the performance of various tests that used contrived specimens because each test validated performance using samples derived from different gene specific, synthetic, or genomic nucleic acid sources.

      Translation: We, at the CDC, did not have a specimen of the SARS-CoV-2 virus when we concocted the PCR test for SARS-CoV-2.

      And that’s the test we’ve been using all along. So we CONTRIVED samples of the virus. We fabricated. We lied. We made up [invented] synthetic gene sequences and we SAID these sequences HAD TO BE close to the sequence of SARS-CoV-2, without having the faintest idea of what we were doing, because, again, we didn’t have an actual specimen of the virus.

      We had no proof THERE WAS something called SARS-CoV-2 (by Jon Rappoport, NoMoreFakeNews).

      Documents:
      SARS-CoV-2 Reference Panel Comparative Data (12 July 2020): https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/sars-cov-2-reference-panel-comparative-data

      CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html

    3. Au contraire, if people want to wear masks, get vaccines, or even live in scuba gear, its up to them. For a demographic that has a fatality rate of about 0.0008, Liberty is doing the right thing.
      And remember a positive result on a medical test is but one element in the diagnosis, it merely increases the possibility of infection. What counts is symptomatic disease, hospitalisations (and let’s dial in the prophylactic moves of Vit. D, zinc, keeping fit, good diet (almost impossible in the US), plenty of sleep, along with ivermectin, as has been demonstrated in India, for example); and of course fatalities and their morbidity profile.

  1. Remember: It’s NOT the number of cases that is important, it’s the death rate. Keep that in mind. Depending on your level of health survivability rates are extremely high. 95% – 99%

    DO NOT FEAR. That’s an order from God himself.

    1. Sweden was pretty lax in their covid response.
      Israel was pretty severe in their covid response.

      The difference in result … 0.62%

      Numbers from worldometers.info:

      # SWEDEN

      1088203/(1088203+14651)*100
      98.67153766500370855900

      # ISRAEL

      1009009/(1009009+7129)*100
      99.29842206471955580800

      99.29-98.67
      0.62

      This is why all we ever hear is “THE CASES ARE INCREASING!!!!”

      Because as you state, the real number we should focus on is the number of deaths.

      And, it appears that all the interventions Israel has taken has resulted in a negligible effect on the death rate.

      1. Good science would have you compare Sweden to it’s immediate neighbors: Norway, Finland, and Denmark. But that contrast would not support your point, so better to cherry pick from across the globe.

    2. Gil, What is your “acceptable death rate”? 1% of 15,000 students is 150! I’m sorry but one death is too many for many of us, especially if it can be prevented by vaccination. My wife suffered from polio as a child before vaccinations were available. Now by God’s grace there are zero cases in this country as we got vaccinated and wiped out that dreadful disease for good!

      1. One death is too many? That’s a new and impossible standard. Genesis 3 and Romans 8 make clear we are under a curse. Utopian idealism always leads to greater tragedy. You know what no one wants to talk about is the massive loss of life and devastating effects of the lockdowns. Also, masks and staying indoors has made us measurably more unhealthy. That leads to shorter lives and worse quality of life.

        Why does no care about any death unless it’s Covid? And comparing a time-tested polio vaccine to an experimental therapeutic that has documented adverse effects with clearly quite limited efficacy is ridiculous. The so-called vaccine has a negligible effect on transmission and is increasingly ineffective in keeping people from hospitalization.

        By your logic, we should all stop driving because that would prevent 100% of vehicle deaths. It’s a guaranteed way to prevent death. If one death is too many.

        1. If we’re under a curse, it doesn’t mean we’re destined to suffer. For instance, sexually transmitted diseases are 100% preventable with the right precautions.

          1. Tony N,

            “If we’re under a curse, it doesn’t mean we’re destined to suffer”

            It does if we need to use the unborn to make the curse more bearable.

            “sexually transmitted diseases are 100% preventable with the right precautions.”

            You mean abstinence? That is the only precaution that is 100% effective.

          2. And Titus I read that if I don’t jump out of an airplane without a parachute that also can prevent death.

      2. Tom P,

        “I’m sorry but one death is too many for many of us” Really? And you apply this standard across the board?

        What is an acceptable rate for abortion?

        What is the acceptable rate for suicide, alcoholism, cigarette use, medical mistake deaths (250,000 per year) etc …?

        By “us” do you mean Boomers? You do not mean my generation or my friends generations, we are not interested in injecting a technology based on the research done on a murdered babies tissues. It goes against our morals, but not yours, so inject away. The Devil must be howling with laughter at the “Christians” who claim all life is sacred, but not when it come to technology using the unborn to save their own lives.

        They can make vaccines without using aborted baby tissue, but they choose not to because Christians/society do not demand a higher standard when it come to medical research, or do not refuse to use their products based on fetal tissue.

        I do not have the right to use the unborn innocent sacrificed to prolong my life. That is a vampire or someone who is worshiping Moloch/Baal.

        Your generation made it’s own bed when it decided unborn life did not have the right to live, and any technology derived from it was morally OK, as long as it benefited you (unprotected sex, vaccines, life extension), but with that moral stance you have shot yourself in the foot because we are holding you to your standard.

        As a Christian society we have to decide what is more important, God’s Law or man’s life.

    3. Gil,

      I’ve raised this topic before. Is ALL fear bad? I find it hard to believe that fear it is. In the wrong context, irrational fear can be debilitating. In many other scenarios, fear keeps us alive. Yes, Im fearful of eating old chicken salad that’s been sitting in the sun. Im fearful entering certain neighborhoods, especially at night. Do people who have a greater degree of faith not also have fear of these sort of things too? Seriously, how does that work?

      -Tony

      1. Neil Cameron (One Salient Oversight)

        We do not have the spirit of fear (δειλία), but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be afraid (φόβος)

        phobos (φόβος) and deilia (δειλία) are two words for fear in the NT.

        deilia (δειλία) is only used once, in the passage we know so well:

        “for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.” (2 Timothy 1.7)

        deilia (δειλία) means cowardice. Thus the verse means that the spirit doesn’t grant us cowardice, but bravery. And in the verses following, Paul expands what this means: it means not being ashamed of their testimony in Christ, sharing in suffering caused by persecution. In other words, it is solely about sticking with Christ when the world wants to coerce you into disobeying or renouncing him.

        But then again, there’s phobos (φόβος). This is working out our salvation with fear and trembling (Phil 2.12). It means that those who sin are rebuked in public so that the rest of the church stands in fear (1 Timothy 5.10). The disciples, after watching Jesus calm the wind and the waves, were filled with great fear (Mark 4.41). Paul himself was filled with fear and trembling with the Corinthians (1 Cor 2.3).

        So when you hear Christians say that “we should not fear” in response to covid, they need their arrogance checked. They’re not being brave, they’re exhibiting bravado, an arrogant, self-righteous bravery that we think is biblical, but isn’t. I’ve read enough stories here on reddit about covid deniers, many of them Christians, who’ve ended up dying of it. Schadenfreude abounds, but all I can think of is the visceral, uncontrolled terror these arrogant people felt as they felt their breath began to slip away.

        1. Whose arrogance? Do you mean the arrogance of those who think it’s their place to not only make decisions for their own lives but every one else around them? Yes, that is certainly arrogant.

          To my knowledge, I’ve never met someone outside the Covid cult who wanted to force their will on anyone else. People must be free to make their own decisions for their families. That’s not my place, your place, a politician’s, a lobbyist’s, a pundit’s, a bureuacrat’s, or even a doctor’s.

          Nothing could be more arrogant than thinking that one individual or a group should have authority over all people, especially when it violates their consciences.

          As for the distinction between δειλία and φόβος, it seems your synchronic analysis is correct. Your conclusion about how this applies to the present situation is not, however.

          While there are legitimate things to fear in life, Covid does not meet this criteria. This is the most hyped and sensationalized story ever, and it’s for a political agenda that is almost daily publicly admitted. Certainly, some have died from Covid, and I wouldn’t want a loved one with a weakened immine system or health issues to get it, but even then they have far greater odds of making it through it with minimal effects than not. Death in this situation would be quite unlikely, though obviously not impossible. Much of what you see for numbers are deaths attributed to Covid because of testing. The tests for all of 2020 were too sensitive, not to mention the questionable accuracy of PCR tests at all, and still many people receive false positives. With that, anyone who dies with a postive test is counted. This is well-documented all across the country and still continues today. The increased death toll in 2020 (average is about 2.8 million from all causes each year in America) was caused more by the policies intended to fight Covid as cities across the country saw almost 100% increases in deaths from heart disease, diabetes, and cancer, not to mention drug overdoses, suicides, and domestic violence.

          Anyone can come up with anecdotal stories about their opponents dying and claim it as proof that their views caused their death. There are many, many stories of people dying after being fully “vaccinated” and dying from the “vaccine.” While I believe there are tremendous problems with the “vaccine,” individual accounts do not give an accurate picture of how the “vaccines” and policies affect a whole society.

  2. Oh no more false-positive tests you say? Sound the alarm! Come on cult members; we need to sacrifice more to the gods of Covid. Perhaps we should offer more children to Molech? Or maybe we need to sacrifice more of our lives, families, and churches until we have nothing left? Wait, I think I know what will satisfy the gods. Maybe Liberty should officially state its support of Democrats and leftist policies, then they could go to large dinners, parties, events, and mass riots, and no one will ever question or look into testing them again.

    Notice the only “super-spreaders” are conservative/Christian gatherings. Christians who buy these false narratives, such as the Roys Report who keeps pumping these stories as servants of the establishment, are being co-opted into a syncretistic leftist cult that uses fear and falsified statistics to bully you into submission.

    Be saved from the Covid cult.

    1. Daniel / Terry Unruh

      Titus, do you see any irony in denouncing those who disagree with you as being “a leftist cult that uses fear and falsified statistics to bully”?

      1. No, if people behave slavishly loyal despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, they are behaving like cult members. Furthermore, a major aspect of cults is that peope end of engaging in masochistic behavior in obedience to their leaders who claim to be the only oracles of “truth.”

        This is medical voodoo forced upon the masses through pure authoritarianism. Literally every strategy the Covid cult advocates go against all previous medical practices and standards. To warrant such gross behavior would demand major irrefutable evidence. The burden of proof is placed on the Covid cult. Yet, all we received is rhetoric that categorizes all who question as “conspiracy theorists” and “science deniers” when most of those who question the cult are far more informed on this issue than the cult members.

        There is no irony because there is literally no modern parallel. Perhaps the only valid parallel is the mass hysteria that Nazi Germany funneled into their purposes.

        1. But about vaccines, things have been totally crazy around me for about two weeks now. Someone who was a commenter here started going nuts sending me and who knows how many others a bunch of COVID videos and articles with people who have been called quacks by the overall science community. They were focused on somethings that may or may not be true. But when they kept making the statement that the vaccines help no one now or ever in the future, I called them on it. And that just set them off and they lost it and would not stop sending me more and more cherry picked stuff. I asked them to respect my own opinion and stop trying to bully people or at least me. Nope. Completely off of their rocker and refused to respect my simple no. I had to move their name to my spam folder because that is what they had become. They did not care if they drove people away, they just had go on and on and on. Absolute obsession on their part.

          No sooner did that end then I wrote something very basic dealing with the fact that the one thing that is absolutely rock solid and can be seen all over the world with millions now vaccinated is that they do make a real difference. This is not a small study but hospitals in countries with high rates of vaccination. The proof is there, most of those in the beds are not vaccinated. Very few have been or at least were supposed to have been. A sample size of hundreds of millions of people! And where are all the nasty side effects that are supposed to be happening to millions? Non-existent.

          Then that set off events where I was suddenly thrown out of a group I have been meeting with for four years. Crazy stuff. Leaders I had good relationships with acting totally nuts. I have never seen the enemy, the Devil, put this many resources into anything. They want Christians to not get vaccinated because they want many of us to die or at least have unnecessary hospital stays. It is just that simple.

          About two months ago or three a friend of mine told me the same thing. He had seen something that claimed to be scientific that claimed they are useless. The same exact lie. Then late in July he brought COVID home from work. By the end of the month, his wife was sick and severe too. He was too sick himself to drive her to the hospital, so called an ambulance. Soon she was in ICU and is still there now. The weeks past and alone and unable to eat or drink or take his meds he just kept getting sicker. Soon he drove himself down to the hospital with pains in places he had never felt before. He waited 9 hours to go in, then waited more hours before a doctor came in. Told him his internal organs were starting to fail, so they gave him 1 IV and some pills he could not keep down and sent him home. A couple of days later his mind was filled with thoughts of suicide as the pain was even worse. Called a suicide hotline and they came and got him and found out his organs were down farther now to 70%. They made sure he got a room and got enough treatment to get him back from that, then checked him into a psyche ward for a week. Finally he started to get better until he was released to go back to work where this all started before.

          Then the CDC came out with a study from CA showing that those who were vaccinated were 5 X less likely to feel symptoms, and 29 times less likely to end up in the hospital. And across the study all of the vaccinated reported less severe symptoms, almost to 100%. The short of this is very likely all of that could have been prevented but he got caught in a lie being told by many Christian Celebrities.

        2. Mr Congdon. Your irrationality, your projections on others and your uncharitable blathering about people you disagree with being a product of “Democrats and leftist policies” is only confirming what the vast majority of nonbelievers have discovered every day during this pandemic: That people who claim to be Christian are self-absorbed, tone deaf, immune to reason, confabulatory and billegerant. That they don’t show any signs of a personal relationship with a living God, and they in no way mirror the Christ they claim has infilled them. While it is not true that all Christians act like this, the ones who dominate the narrative today definitely do.
          I sincerely doubt Christianity in America will ever recover its former influence in the public square and I think an entire generation of young people will abandon Christendom and never look back. What a tragedy.

          1. Mr. Wolfe, I believe your comment was totally baseless. But its absurdity I believe needs correction.

            There is nothing irrational with my statements. Only if one is Biblically illiterate (or hermeneutically deficient) and has been asleep for more than 18 months could they not see the pagan and cultish devotion to the statist agenda. From early March 2020 on, only one group of people have been allowed a say in a Constitutionally governed society. It doesn’t matter how many thousands of eminently qualified (some even Nobel laureate) medical scientist and doctors opposed the agenda, somehow journalists who get caught lying frequently now knew more than qualified virologists, epidemiologists, and biophysicists. Furthermore, the policies being implemented were unprecedented and even contradicted established procedures and criteria. To warrant such actions would require overwhelming data and forthright and transparent explanations to the public, but none were given. What was given were models, which ended up being totally wrong. Then came the constantly shifting timeframes, almost daily changes in guidance, and a story that changed so many times that a child or coinflip could have had a better chance of making long-lasting policy decisions than the bureaucrats.

            I have neither the space here nor the energy (something the establishment uses against citizens) to make a full and detailed history and refutation of everything done, but suffice it to say–there is a Satanic agenda in this world that is demonstrable and Bibically prophesied in detail. This agenda includes a globalization of human society, a centralization of human power, and unification of human thinking in direct opposition to God’s judgment in Genesis 10 at Babel.

            The state is using several narratives to move the agenda forward and they all work symbiotically toward the same end. They want to massively reduce human population through abortion, LGBTQ, and climate religion, corral people into manageable units away from rural areas and away from property rights, move toward a command economy with state-owned production, move toward a centralized digital currency so they can control all commerce, and so forth. Covid and all its measures are the most powerful instrument the state has ever wielded to accomplish its purposes because it can fit into every single plot they have. This is not speculation or as so many mindlessly parrot, a “conspiracy theory.” This is an open conspiracy that many powerful people are now proudly broadcasting to the world.

            What I’ve described is a Satanic system that God prophesied would develop. As a Christian, I’m called to separate from evil, to be honest, and to protect my family and church. It would be grossly unchristian to passively or actively endorse such a system.

            Now telling me I’m projecting is again an absurdity. I’m not trying to use the state (or any other means) to coerce others into obedience to an agenda. How could that be projection?

            You may call me uncharitable, but I believe that is a poor use of the word. I suppose you may have said something similar to Christ when He called Satan’s servants a “brood of vipers” and whitewashed tombs.” I have not been vulgar or unkind towards anyone. I have been honest about people being involved with a plot that is truly abhorrent and evil.

            Furthemore, I’m not sure how it’s self-aborsbed to be advocating for the well being of our whole society and world in devotion to God’s Word. I also don’t see how I’ve been “tone deaf, immune to reason,” and “belligerent” by making reasoned, albeit forceful arguments, but somehow Christians have been convinced that we must always sacrifice truth and righteousness for soft, comfortable, and humanly pleasing actions and speech.

            As a general rule, Christians should be peaceful and gentle, but that has limits as demonstrated by Paul, Christ, John, and Peter as each of them had confrontational encounters with Christians/Jews, pagans and false teachers, and governments. Not every encounter involved the same degree of force or confrontation, but it’s undeniable that there are appropriate times to speak forcefully and excoriate falsehood.

            Finally, while I care about unbelievers, I care much less about what they think. I don’t want to unnecessarily give them reason to oppose Christians, but 1 Corinthians 1 and 2 makes clear that the world will not accurately assess the Gospel or Christians and that they will be offended. Other passages make clear that this extends beyond just the Gospel in particular but for all of a Christians’s life and activities–we will be hated. The worst thing we can do is give unvelievers the impression that our beliefs don’t matter, that we are in cahoots with the world system, or that we are willing to lie to make others feel good.

            I’m sorry I offended you so, but I do not retract any of my statements as I believe the Covid cult is a very real and demonstrable thing that needs to be denounced and people must be saved out of.

      1. Wait, so by that logic freedom is cultish? Being free to make your own choices and not be enslaved is cultish? Wow!

        Being a cult member is exactly the oppsite of being free. It’s a slavery of the mind. This is where our society is having a crisis because the postmodernists take a term like freedom and oppressively condition people to think it means “slavery.”

        The argument that “personal freedom” is a cult is a breakdown of language itself.

        BTW, how has anyone sacrificed anyone else’s life by making their own choices? That’s absurd. The Covid cult sacrificed many thousands of lives by forcing the will of a small group of bureaucrats on the unwashed masses, locking people in their homes for months in violation of Habeas Corpus. Now, something as fundamental to human life as breathing is a crime and must be restricted.

        I thought slavery was a grave evil; why then does the Covid cult believe slavery is salvation?

        Every credible study (not a sample size of ten people that the CDC uses as a pretext for their “guidance”; i.e., coercion) and metanalysis has shown that masks and lockdowns have done nothing and that both have actually exacerbated the effects of the virus and worsened public health dramatically and that lockdowns caused many people to die.

        No human life has been sacrificed by those who believe in freedom. We just reject slavery and think each individual and family must make their own decisions. The Covid cult, on the other hand, has defiled through heavy coercive and totalitarian means the will of many people and led them to death by their policies.

      2. Notice how you didn’t mention Azorean Tatum (16 years old; heart attack at school days after his Pfizer vaccine), Kim Beasely Jarvis (57 years old; dead 24 hours after being vaccinated) or Roy Butler (23 year old; massive brain bleed 4 days after J&J vaccine) or the Go Fund Me page of Jummai Nache whose legs and hand were amputated as a direct result of the Pfizer vaccine. This is stated on the page.

        https://www.gofundme.com/f/22h9pf-fundraiser-for-jummai-naches-medical-expenses

        1. I just looked up each one of these people and read about them. It’s not clear in a single one of these cases that the COVID vaccine was the cause of their death or suffering.

          This is an example of the informal logical fallacy know as “Post hoc ergo propter hoc” (after this therefore because of this) which posits that because one thing happened after another thing, therefore the thing that happened before must be the cause of the later thing. It’s not a valid conclusion.

          It will require more evidence to establish whether or not the vaccine was the cause of their suffering or death.

    2. I guess I’m a part of that cult that believes in wearing masks, social distancing and vaccination.

      Can anyone here tell me where I can get my membership card?
      Are there meetings going on that I don’t know about in my area. Maybe I can use my membership for a free coffee or something.

      1. Yes, it’s colloquially referred to as a vaccine passport. Some people are so loyal that they even get tattoos to document the day they got the jab and some even get pictures of their deity Fauci inked on their bodies.

      2. Also, I hear you can go to sporting events, concerts, enter lotteries, get free hamburgers in New York, and get a free donut with your membership.

      3. Tony N,

        The club meets daily during the evening news, no card is required only that you parrot whatever the TV says without researching their claims. That is how you can identify each other, no need to break social distancing with handing someone a card or a secret hand shake.

        Your membership allows to use abort fetal cell technology to extend your life, and instantly makes you morally superior to everyone who doesn’t use it.

        1. “Your membership allows [] to use abort fetal cell technology… ” WRONG. https://www.christiansandthevaccine.com/episodes/05

          Andrew T, have you taken any over the counter or doctor prescribed medications lately? Better stop right now, because mostly likely they’ve ALL been tested using the same line of cells as the covid vaccine… Have you had an major medical procedure or been to the hospital lately Andrew? More than likely most or all of any recent procedure was tested, etc by the “fetal cell technology” you reference. That technology has been used everywhere and everything in the medical field… Andrew. Please view the video and let the grace of God, especially His common grace in medicine, take away the fears about fetal cell technology…

          1. Andrew Z,

            “Andrew T, have you taken any over the counter or doctor prescribed medications lately? Better stop right now, because mostly likely they’ve ALL been tested using the same line of cells as the covid vaccine…”

            Are you asking if I am aware of the following?

            https://www.ahlcglobal.com/blogs/seeing-through-the-veil/aborted-fetal-cells-used-as-food-flavor-enhancers

            Aborted Fetal Cells Used As Food Flavor Enhancers RSS
            Comprehensive List Of Companies That Use This Flavor Enhancer

            Need proof of Senomyx use of aborted fetal cell lines?

            Following is the link to the online article for their patent on sweet receptors (they filed several separate patents for each of the different taste receptors): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC123709/

            As it is lengthy and technical, we recommend you simply do a search in the document for HEK-293.

            HEK CELL (Human Embryonic Kidney 293 cells), also often referred to as HEK 293, 293 cells, or less precisely as HEK cells are a specific cell line originally derived from human embryonic kidney cells grown in tissue culture. HEK 293 cells are very easy to grow and transfect very readily and have been widely used in cell biology research for many years. They are also used by the biotechnology industry to produce therapeutic proteins and viruses for gene therapy.
            Below is a list of products that contain HEK cells.

            HEK cell Products; http://www.cogforlife.org/fetalproductsall.pdf

            Pepsi Beverages on the Boycott list:

            • All Pepsi soft drinks
            • Sierra Mist soft drinks
            • Mountain Dew soft drinks
            • Mug root beer and other soft drinks
            • No Fear beverages
            • Ocean Spray beverages
            • Seattle’s Best Coffee
            • Tazo beverages
            • AMP Energy beverages
            • Aquafina water
            • Aquafina flavored beverages
            • DoubleShot energy beverages
            • Frappuccino beverages
            • Lipton tea and other beverages
            • Propel beverages
            • SoBe beverages
            • Gatorade beverages
            • Fiesta Miranda beverages
            • Tropicana juices and beverages

            Nestles Products:

            • All coffee creamers
            • Maggi Brand instant soups, bouillon cubes, ketchup, sauces, seasoning, instant noodles.

            Kraft – Cadbury Adams LLC Products:

            Gum
            • Black Jack chewing gum
            • Bubbaloo bubble gum
            • Bubblicious bubble gum
            • Chiclets
            • Clorets
            • Dentyne
            • Freshen Up Gum
            • Sour Cherry Gum (Limited)
            • Sour Apple Gum (Limited)
            • Stride
            • Trident

            Cadbury Adams LLC Candies
            • Sour Cherry Blasters
            • Fruit Mania
            • Bassett’s Liquorice – All sorts
            • Maynards Wine Gum
            • Swedish Fish
            • Swedish Berries
            • Juicy Squirts
            • Original Gummies
            • Fuzzy Peach
            • Sour Chillers
            • Sour Patch Kids
            • Mini Fruit Gums

            Other Cadbury Adams LLC Products
            • Certs breath mints
            • Halls Cough Drops

            Not part of Senomyx – Neocutis Products

            This company produces anti wrinkle creams that contain cells from a 14-week gestation aborted male baby. Following is the list of the creams, but we recommend a full boycott of all Neocutis Products.

            Bio-Gel Prevedem Journee
            Bio-Serum Lumiere
            Bio-Restorative Skin Cream

            Vaccines Containing HEK Cells And the Manufacturers:
            MMR II (Merck)
            ProQuad (MMR + Chickenpox – Merck)
            Varivax (Chickenpox – Merck)
            Pentacel (Polio + DTaP + HiB – Sanofi Pasteur)
            Vaqta (Hepatitis-A – Merck)
            Havrix (Hepatitis-A – Glaxo SmithKline)
            Twinrix (Hepatitis-A and B combo – Glaxo)
            Zostavax (Shingles – Merck)
            Imovax (Rabies – Sanofi Pasteur)

            Other medicines:
            Pulmozyme (Cystic Fibrosis – Genetech)
            Enbrel (Rheumatoid Arthritis – Amgen)

            Note: Moral options exist for Rabies, Polio,
            Rheumatoid Arthritis. Separate moral options
            currently not available for Measles and Mumps.

            source; http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.comviahttp://www.cogforlife.org/

            Biotech company using cell lines from aborted babies in food enhancement testing http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/biotech-company-using-cell-lines-f

            Origins of HEK 293 Cells

            “HEK 293 cells were generated in the early 70s by transformation of cultures of normal human embryonic kidney cells with sheared adenovirus 5 DNA in Alex Van der Eb’s laboratory in Leiden, The Netherlands.”

            “The human embryonic kidney cells were obtained from an aborted fetus and originally cultured by Van der Eb himself; the transformation by adenovirus was performed by Frank Graham who published his findings in the late 1970s after he left Leiden for McMaster University in Canada.”

            “They are called HEK for human embryonic kidney, while the number 293 comes from Graham’s habit of numbering his experiments; the original HEK 293 cell clone was simply the product of his 293rd experiment.”

            Other References:
            HEK 293 Transfection and Selection Data @ Cell-culture Database
            HEK 293 Database
            293 Cells (CRL-1573) in the ATCC database
            Transcript of FDA meeting, in which, starting page 77, Dr. Alex Van… .pdf

            Originally Posted by Krishna Kalki on June 8, 2017, at 3:41 am in Food, Health, and Nutrition

            I do not intentionally use anything using this technology, but it is hard to find information on it. You can get the older medicines/treatments not based on fetal research, but you have to ask for it. I had a 3rd degree burn and turned down the new “human skin graft” they had developed, for a pig skin graft.

            I have a question for you: When I highlighted your username to copy/paste in my reply, it opened up the web page The Persistent K.o.G. under the link https://thepersistentkog.wordpress.com/

            Why?

    3. As a Republican alumni, I see the far right as cultish, complete with a willingness to sacrifice lives for it’s personal freedom ideals.

      1. I know; how dare we believe in thinking for ourselves. We, the vulgar masses, need to understand that the dark ages were the ideal when only a privileged group of “experts” could make decisions. It’s so cultish to be educated and think for ourselves.

        And of course how dare we sacrifice lives for personal freedom. We learned from this that people who have no infection can kill people by simply existing. We also learned that strategies that do absolutely nothing save lives if you give up your freedom. We also learned that people are not responsible for their own lives. If someone gets sick, it’s someone else’s fault. That makes sense.

        Sadly, if you follow this thinking to its logical end it fits in perfectly with the abortion agenda and climate change propaganda that teach that human existence is a plague to the earth.

        But as a Christian, I do have a responsibility not to lie. I can’t be apart of the Covid cult because it’s a sin to lie. Also, slavery is a sin. I can’t agree with enslaving an entire population. I also have a responsibility to my family not to allow them to be harmed and abused by authoritarians who have no interest in their well being.

        I could go on.

  3. Moral sins, apparently, can be easily forgiven at Liberty. But mandating vaccines and masking would be a political sin, and that is unforgivable.

  4. Add Duke University to your list: “In the last week, 349 students and 15 employees tested positive for the virus and all but 8 were fully vaccinated. None of them has been hospitalized, and only a small number have minor flu-like symptoms.” (WRAL News)

  5. Me thinks Julie and Sarah are pro-vaccine. Ok by me to pro-vaccine, but prefer less biased reporting.

    How many of the students are on their deathbed or have died from covid ?
    The hospital cases are mentioned but no mention of the number of students in the hospital.
    What about cases in the hospital that can be traced back to students ?

    Interesting to compare the Christian Liberty University with the Secular Universities as if there is some shortcoming.
    What’s the benefit of surviving Covid at a Secular University while being indoctrinated into atheism on the road to eternal fire.
    Is it possible the distinctive behavior of a Christian University has something to do with being gospel centered ?

    How lethal is Covid compared to. “… measles, mumps, rubella, meningococcal disease, tetanus, diphtheria, hepatitis B and polio. A tuberculosis …” ? Would be useful to see some factual reporting on this.

    FYI, don’t quote the recent CDC. I have no confidence in government to report anything accurately at this point.
    My faith is not in government, but maybe some pre-covid data would be useful.

    Reminds me of Hebrews 2:15 (ESV) “… deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong slavery”

    Deliverance from the fear of death and lifelong slavery does not come from the vaccine or mask wearing.

    Folks, Covid is here to stay. Some will die from it. It will resurface over and over. Instead of point fingers at each other and blaming for something we have little control over, folks should be pointing out the failures of the godless CCP.

    Christians should be stepping into this disease as they bravely did in past pandemics instead of running in fear.

    1. “Christians should be stepping into this disease as they bravely did in past pandemics instead of running in fear.”

      Many of us are doing that… by getting vaccinated and wearing masks when asked to, giving up some temporal conveniences (or rights)… etc. So that we can be in the midst of our neighbors and fellow americans; so they have no fear or apprehensions about us… and so we’re equipped with All the available tools to help them…

      “What’s the benefit of surviving Covid at a Secular University while being indoctrinated into atheism on the road to eternal fire.” … hmm… but surely you know there are lots of Christians going to secular universities and they come out Not indoctrinated into atheism… (my wife and I and dozens of our friends can personally testify to this) I wish I had a survey handy, but maybe you’d be surprised at how many atheists actually went to places like Liberty… or came from even more fundamentalist evangelical backgrounds. Your us vs them paradigm isn’t so neat and tidy in the real world.

    2. Dana you said, “I have no confidence in government to report anything accurately at this point.”

      That is quite concerning because “The government” is not a single entity. it’s a huge group of people from all walks of life who do a myriad of jobs which serve the entire population. In that huge group of people there are Christians who serve selflessly. And non Christians too who take their jobs seriously and aren’t out to advance any agenda other than doing excellent work in their fields. I know because I worked in a government agency and have godly christian friends who have worked in other government offices.

      The entire mass of these people cannot all be our enemies bent on destroying America.

      1. I believe that is a misinformed view of American government. The US government was structured to curb the power of individuals to necessary limits. However, the federal government has grown well past the limits permitted by the Constitution. There is a complex and multi-level system of bureaucracy. While it does not always work as a total monolith, it does generally cooperate toward the same goals.

        This can happen in any institutional system. Take higher education, for example. Higher education is composed of many thousands of private and public institutions that all have their own institutions’ interests. And while in most institutions, not all faculty and administration are purely leftist, nor are all institutions leftists, the overwhelming majorty of faculties, administrations, and institutions are. They function monolithically without ever requiring a central command. Certainly a cental command is quicker and more direct, but ideology is less alarming, looks less nefarious and conspiratorial, and can be quite powerful.

        So, yes there are many individuals at all levels of government who may not be participating in disseminating misinformation, but they are outweighed. Furthermore, many of them are likely convinced that the misinformation being spread is reliable simply because they trust those above them and around them.

        Remember, power corrupts because men are corrupt by nature (Eph. 2:3). James Madison also said that if men were angels there’d be no need for government, and if government were composed of angels there’d be no need for limits on its power.

        I think the problem is that people have become ignorant of man’s nature and the history of tyranny.

        1. Correction: I didn’t mean the government was structured to curb the power of private citizens. I meant it curbs the power of individuals who hold public office (i.e., executive, legislative, or judicial).

  6. You know, I’m really curious how everyone in this comments section would get along if we looked past our COVID views.

    If we all got to meet up for a free buffet somewhere, would we be able to talk about family, the upcoming NFL season, or maybe house projects? Or, would our strong views on the COVID topic demand our attention?

    I’m in profound disagreement with many here. If I had the chance to meet some of you, I’d be more curious to know why you are so passionate and emotionally attached to your position, and less interested in the rationale behind your views. The intensity of the opposition here (both sides) is certainly fascinating.

    Can anyone agree on that?

    1. When Bill Gates, a known associate of a pedophile, Jeffrey Epstein, (who was already reported to the NYPD by Maria Farmer and gave them a sworn statement), expresses his desire to depopulate the world using vaccines along with “family planning” (i.e. abortions or unborn baby murder) in a 2010 Ted Talk titled Innovating to Zero at the 4 minute mark of the presentation, meets up with like-minded billionaires including Ted Turner who said the world needs to depopulated by 90-95%, at a meeting in New York in 2009 (Source: Robert Frank, 26 May 2009, WSJ, https://archive.is/a5zJ9) and then has his organization (Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation) co-host a pandemic exercise along with the WEF whose founder was recruited by Henry Kissinger who was in turn recruited by the House of Rothschilds who enemies of Jesus Christ, then you reject what they tell you to do.

      If that not enough, just remember that all the vaccines used aborted fetal tissue whether it was in research, testing or production (Source: https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/you-asked-we-answered-do-the-covid-19-vaccines-contain-aborted-fetal-cells). It doesn’t matter that the unborn baby was murdered 30 years or so ago because the foundation of Covid vaccines is death. You can read more about aborted babies being used in vaccines at https://cogforlife.org/guidance/.

    2. Welcome to every “discussion” in a post-truth world. People are tired of ignoring the lies, pacifying themselves with NFL, house projects, etc. This is not the time to stop looking for truth. It’s time to lean in and find it.

      1. Martins – I think I disagree with you again here. I don’t personally pacify myself with NFL, though I have enjoyed a few house projects recently. That hasn’t, however, shaped my views on this global pandemic. The point I’m making earlier, is it’s very important to connect with others in order to have a meaningful conversation. Sometimes that takes discussing non-threatening topics and expressing an actual interest in the other person.

        I’ve seen COVID overwhelm people and divide families. On more than one occasion, I’ve heard people telling stories of going to a wedding, only to hear family members and loved ones relentlessly bring up views on COVID. Similarly, I’ve heard the same story with others attending a funeral service.

        If you were one of these type of people outside this forum, I would totally shut you down and distance myself. Restating your views over and over isn’t going to persuade me (or presumably anyone else).

        1. The truth has a tendency to divide people. This country is about to learn that lesson. The lies didn’t start with COVID-19. The lies are symptom of a very deep problem of sin, in and out of the church. Christian churches and families haven’t protected themselves against this, and the division is just a natural outcome of allowing lies to coexist with the truth. In that sense though, they’ve just mirrored the cultural and spiritual decline of the United States. The problem runs very deep, and until that is corrected, we shouldn’t be surprised that the division happens, and we shouldn’t hope to be able to mix lies and truth, because that’s impossible and sinful, frankly.

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  7. “If we all got to meet up for a free buffet somewhere, would we be able to talk about family, the upcoming NFL season, or maybe house projects? Or, would our strong views on the COVID topic demand our attention?”

    Tony,

    I’d take the time to ask if you knew governments around the world are using technology in the form of psychotronics to manipulate the minds of the masses to accept ideas they otherwise would not embrace?

    In other words, it is now technically possible (wireless emf/elf/microwaves) to override a person’s free will. Did you know this?

    https://focusdynaresearch.wordpress.com/tag/psychotronic-weapons-russia/

    Dr. Morgan’s 2018 presentation at West Point. We have the ability to control emotions, erase memories, implant new ones, control a person’s mind remotely via a second person’s mind.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cTtIPBPSv0U

    Dr. Nick Begic’s presentation of documented facts that governments have been admitting to controlling the weather and people’s thoughts via HAARP and similar for decades.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LepJTNsvB0c

    I have a suspicion God in Christ will soon pull the plug on the human experiment that was started back in the Garden of Eden, and make all things new. Man has gone too far in his quest for control.

  8. Vaccines have helped many people, but where is the public discussion and investigative articles about EFFECTIVE TREATMENT of Covid? I got Covid and called Front Line Doctors, who helped prescribe Ivermectin and other medicines. They helped tremendously. I’m a high risk having had cancer and have a weakness in my lungs.

    I’m not sure why the Roys Report keeps reporting on Liberty’s infection rate. Why not write articles on doctors who are effectively treating their patients with medication that is working to keep people out of the hospital and out of the morgue?

  9. At some point, adults are gonna adult. We can’t save the whole world from a virus they don’t want to be saved from. That being said, we expect better from “Christian” institutions. If any family makes the MacArthur mafia look clean, it is the Falwell circus (and yes, that started with JF Senior).

    1. I know; Christian institutions should be ashamed to oppose the world system. They should submit to the world system so the world system might like them.

  10. Perfect example of what happens when you ignore the advice of doctors, scientists and other experts on how to mitigate the spread of Covid. And what a shame that evangelicals are some of the worst at taking the recommended precautions. So much for love of neighbor.

    I am a longtime believer with a masters degree in theology, but I’m absolutely done with how evangelicals have responded to the pandemic. They have ignored the truth, trafficked in lies and deflection, and are literally dying because of it as well as causing others to suffer and die. Also, their behavior contributes to the spread of the virus and thus to its chance to mutate into more deadly variants.

    It’s shameful, and it’s sinful. It brings dishonor to the church and to the Christian witness. I will never be a part of it, and I will speak out against it at every turn.

    1. Amen John Lotze… these last few years have been extremely disheartening but also veil rending… we american “christians” (me included… I’m kind of an evangelical?) have been so exposed for the sham we are…

  11. Some people have legitimate religious and medical reasons for not taking the Covid shot. And it is no longer possible to trust the government or the media. In years past we have had some severe flu seasons where many died. Remember we are dealing with “experimental” drugs. Soon, there will be shots available that are similar to the flu shot, which I take every year. With that being said, it is prudent to take precautions and not meet in large crowds “inside” w/o masks. I see people wearing masks outside and there is no proof that this is effective or that it can be caught outside. The elephant in the room is that we as Americans are generally unhealthy and because so many have co-morbitities they end up sicker than normal. Cut out the sugar, lose some weight, walk more, lower your blood pressure, eat healthier, stay away from sugary drinks. A lot of Americans will not change their lifestyles.

    I think we need to have a bit more charity with one another. Our economy has been severely affected by lockdowns and over zealous politicians. There has been spikes in suicides, family breakdown and violence, severe depression, conflict, drug and alcohol abuse etc.

  12. Here is a thought:

    God ordained Covid-19!

    That’s a bold and very Biblical statement. Why is Covid-19 ordained by God?

    1. (God has ordained Covid 19 (Isaiah
    45:7).

    2. God has ordained evil for a purpose (Genesis 50:20).

    3. God has ordained all things in our lives with purpose (Romans 8:28-39)

    4. God ordained the number of days we have on earth before Genesis 1:1 (Psalm 90:12).

    5. God has ordained how each moment and season of life will be (Psalm 139:1-24).

    6. God was pleased to crush His own son (Isaiah 53:10-12).

    7. Jesus accepted the wrath of the Father (Matthew 26:39).

    8. Jesus came from Heaven not for His purpose but His Father’s purpose (John 6:38).

    9. Jesus willfully laid His life down. No man took it, but who He ordained (John 10:18).

    10. Herod, Pilate, the Gentiles and the Israelites were but a tool in God’s ordained plan (Acts 4:27-28).

    11. Jesus had joy as the Father’s wrath crushed Him (Hebrews 12:2).

    12. Jesus endured the wrath of the Father (Hebrews 12:2).

    13. The United States Government is nothing but a drop in a bucket or a piece of dust on a scale (Isaiah 40:15)

    14. All the nations in God’s eyes are counted as less than nothing and emptiness (Isaiah 40:17).

    15. In God’s providence the leaders who make decisions are like grasshoppers (Isaiah 40:22).

    16. In God’s providence leaders are nothing and full of emptiness (Isaiah 40:23).

    17. God laughs at the vain plans of political leaders (Psalm 2:1-4).

    This is a Biblical Theology of Covid-19. So what should a Biblical response be?

    1. Count it all Joy. Just as Jesus did when He went to the cross (James 1:2 & Hebrews 12:2)

    2. When? Trials come. Because they willl come and they are from God. It is His trial. He did the same to His Son by the Spirit. The Spirit led Christ to be tempted (James 1:2 & Matthew 4:1-11).

    3. For we know that testing produces “steadfastness”. The same Greek word was used for Christ in Hebrew 12:2, translated “endured”. The word means to have the ability to remain under. Under what? The Almighty purpose of God. (James 2:3-4 & Hebrews 12:2)

    4. How do we endure? Realize our True Identity. Our ordained identity was prior to the foundation of the world. Other words, before Genesis 1:1 we were chosen by God. Not just for salvation but for identification. He is our identity. Really we are just a vessel by which He lives. He has Imputed His righteousness in His followers . (Ephesians 1:4, Romans 8:28-30 & Galatians2:20).

    5. We need to trust that the only sure ordained truth in this pandemic (is not science, vaccines, not being vaccinated, masks, no masks, our being super vigilant or being careless) is the Word of God (Isaiah 40:8).

    6. This virus will call people into eternity when the Lord blows their candle out. However all these mandates whether followed or not will change the number of our predetermined days (Isaiah 40:7 & Psalm 90:12).

    7. The same God who breathes life in and out of existence. Also breathed His Word into existence. His Word is profitable for TRUTH, REPROOF, CORRECTION AND TRAIN HOW TO LIVE THE RIGHT-WAY. (Isaiah 40:7-8 & 2 Timothy 3:16).

    8. When one lacks this Sovereign Truth. Ask God for His truth and wisdom. With zero doubts. Because if he doubts he will be like a wave of the sea. Zero control. (James 1:5-8).

    9. However, when the winds of society blows within church and in the world. What do we do? We believe God’s ordained plan with His Covid. We will not let the storms of life or the storms of Covid-19 move our Hope! Jesus ordained this and is the only One who can speak to this virus. (Mark 4:35-41, Ephesians 4:14 & James 1:5-8).

  13. Sorry but point 6
    6. This virus will call people into eternity when the Lord blows their candle out. However all these mandates whether followed or not will (NOT) change the number of our predetermined days (Isaiah 40:7 & Psalm 90:12).

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