You don’t come to the Rev. John Hagee’s church only to hear about the amazing grace of God. On Saturday, a crowd packed the sanctuary of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, to listen to a Who’s Who of Christian nationalists, anti-vaxxers, Trump loyalists, and conspiracy theorists euphemistically swear at Joe Biden.
While it made headlines thanks to former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn urging the United States to “embrace one religion,” the three-day event and the latest stop of the “Reawaken America Tour,” was remarkable in itself for its collection of election conspiracy theorists. These included My Pillow CEO Michael J. Lindell and Flynn, alongside Alex Jones of Info Wars and anti-vaxx champion Sherri Tenpenny.
Attendance was filled out by Q-Anon true believers and pro-Trump preachers and activists, all of whom periodically filled the air with chants of “Let’s Go Brandon” — a workaround for an obscene anti-Biden chant.
The Q-Anon crowd is at televangelist John Hagee’s Cornerstone Church in San Antonio.
They are chanting, “Let’s Go Brandon” from the church pews. pic.twitter.com/pGqUmUXezn
— PatriotTakes 🇺🇸 (@patriottakes) November 14, 2021
The Reawaken America tour — which began in Tulsa in the spring of 2021 and ends in mid-January in Phoenix — is organized by Clay Clark, host of the Thrivetime Show podcast.
Speaking to the audience at Cornerstone, Flynn, who was subpoenaed last week by a House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack, said, “If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God.”
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Jones was found liable on Monday for damages for spreading misinformation about the Sandy Hook, Connecticut, school shooting. He told the cheering crowd that the end-times prophecies of the Book of Revelation were playing out before their eyes and that they were living in the most important time on earth since Jesus walked the earth.
Jones added that he had come to Texas to interview Flynn and Patrick Byrne, the former CEO of Overstock.com, to lay out a “future blueprint of victory for America over the New World Order.”
“We are going to stand in their way and we’ve got God on our side,” he said from the church’s stage. “God Bless you all. Thank you for being here. God wins. God wins.”
Even Alex Jones was on hand to rant that Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama all serve Satan. pic.twitter.com/amBTbFPZEq
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 15, 2021
Cornerstone issued a statement distancing themselves from the Reawaken America event.
“This past week, Cornerstone Church facilities were used by an outside organization,” the statement read. “Cornerstone Church is not associated with this organization and does not endorse their views.”
Amanda Grace of Ark of Grace Ministries, which focuses on doling out online prophecies about current events, appeared onstage in a Jewish-themed prayer shawl to blow a ritual horn known as a shofar. The instrument, made from a ram’s horn and traditionally used in Jewish worship, has become a staple of Pentecostal gatherings since being featured prominently in the Jericho March, a post-election protest held in the run-up to the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.
And here she is, giving her explanation of the shofar’s power in this venue pic.twitter.com/FzHf9em0lB
— Sam Kestenbaum (@skestenbaum) November 14, 2021
Grace told the gathering that the shofar was a “spiritual weapon” that played part in great biblical victories like the battle of Jericho, where the city’s walls fell down after the shofar was blown over a series of seven days. When the shofar is sounded, she said, God’s power is unleashed.
“It’s an announcement to the enemy that his stronghold is about to fall,” she said. “Demons tremble at the sound of the shofar.”
The Reawaken America Tour was in many respects a reprise of Bards Fest, a smaller-scale event held in September at a drive-in movie and events space in St. Louis. It combined Christian worship, nationalist anti-Biden rhetoric, election conspiracies and COVID-19 vaccine resistance. As in St. Louis, Grace and other speakers were joined in San Antonio by Trump-backer and COVID-skeptic Greg Locke, a controversial Tennessee pastor recently banned from Twitter for sharing disinformation.
Locke has also spoken at similar Pentecostal-themed God and country, anti-mask, anti-Biden and anti-vaxxer events, like America’s Revival, held in Frisco, Texas, in August, where Lindell also promoted his election conspiracies.
The worship music in San Antonio was led by Sean Feucht, a Christian singer and failed candidate for California’s state legislature who has traveled the country during COVID-19, holding concerts that flaunt local COVID-19 restrictions.
Feucht is a former worship leader at Bethel, a charismatic California megachurch whose leaders promoted prophecies about Trump’s reelection and criticized the state’s approach to the pandemic. Feucht posted a video over the weekend of Jones shouting “God Wins” as well as a selfie with Flynn on his social media profiles.
Feucht is promoting a new movie called “Let Us Worship” that opens with news clips about the pandemic followed by images of worship events at a Nashville courthouse, on a beach, from a Portland, Oregon, park and the streets of Minneapolis.
“There’s a remnant rising across America,” Feucht posted on social media, with his arm around Flynn.
This story has been updated to include a statement from Cornerstone Church.
Bob Smietana is a national reporter for Religion News Service.
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Well mixing Christianity with Politics has never been a good idea but can you blame them with all that the Liberals are doing to destroy Christianity and attack everyone that does not toe their party line?
I may have just read my last article by Mr. Smietana. But since the rules of the web-site dictate decorum, we may never know why I feel this way.
Tim..I totally share your exact sentiment!!
The Church continues to shrink in part due to these kind of pathetic fanatics.
@ Jim Good
Thanks Jim. The fellowship of The Spirit!
Are you insinuating that his reporting is not factual? Attacking the messenger is a weak position to take. Or maybe I misunderstood your comment.
“…but can you blame them..?”
Without hesitation, yes, I blame false teachers.
Both these articles, actually one is 274 page dissertation, And both prominently mentioned Jerry Falwell’s role in this theocratic movement. It’s interesting what Jerry Falwell had to say before he turn his church into a political action group for himself.
“Heal Their Land”: Evangelical Political Theology From the Great Awakening to the Moral Majority—Joseph D. Harder PHD
https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/historydiss/67/
From this PDF on page 98 I basically quote from Falwell:
‘Jerry Falwell, preaching a sermon titled “Ministers and Marches” to a crowded sanctuary in Lynchburg, Virginia, was sharply critical of pastors who participated in civil rights activism,…. Such pastors needed to be off the streets and behind their pulpits, proclaiming the saving gospel of Jesus Christ. “Preachers are not called to be politicians but to be soul-winners,” he said. “We have a message of redeeming grace through a crucified and risen Lord. This message is designed to go right to the heart of man and there meet his deep spiritual need.” Christians were not called to “reform the externals,” he said, or wage war against sin, whether that sin be gambling, alcohol consumption, prostitution, “prejudiced person or institutions,” or anything else. “Our ministry is not reformation but transformation. The gospel does not clean up the outside but rather regenerates the inside.”…’
Falwell became a hypocrite when he went into politics.
Another excellent topic on why many took the wrong path. This article was on the Australian broadcasting Corporation’s site:
“Why is America so divided on abortion? Because a key conservative player planned it that way”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-16/why-america-is-so-divided-on-abortion-and-the-men-who-planned-it/101188994?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=link&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web
Maybe “christianity” as exemplified by American evangelicals needs to be destroyed.
I can remember when at least most evangelicals used to be about the gospel, but I fear that time is gone. At some point when you get enough idolatry and just plain insanity infused into it, a church ceases to be a church and becomes something else. It seems some are edging close to that line if not already over it. Thankfully, this is almost entirely unique to America; much of the rest of the church worldwide is aghast at this kind of thing, and rightly so.
You hit the nail on the head.
I do wonder if a jealous God may be dealing with the “God and country” mindset. They very much remind me of the NT zealots who wanted to make Jesus their earthly king, with no understanding of what the kingdom is intended to be.
Completely crazy. How do people actually think this reflects New Testament Christianity?
The stuff about the shofar is pure superstition. It strikes me as the exact opposite of what the Old Testament narrates about how the people of Israel won their battles. It was the Lord who brought the victory, not the use of some talismanic object.
The actions of the “right” are truly becoming unbelievable to me as a believer in and follower of Jesus. Some believe that the biggest threat to Christianity is the liberal left. I disagree. The biggest threats to Christianity are politics masquerading as evangelicalism, hate masquerading as love, selfishness masquerading as the “greater good for all”, nationalism masquerading as conservative Christianity, racists masquerading as traditionalists, basically, the political “right”. I’m absolutely floored. Unreal! Oh, one more-liars masquerading as truth-tellers. SMH
Everything you just stated also largely exists on the left ????
Sara, the whataboutism of your argument is unBiblical. Scripture calls us to take the plank out of our own eye FIRST, and we as a church have a HUGE one. Attitudes of “they do it too” and “it’s also on the left” do NOTHING to take the plank out. It deflects and denies we have a plank, all while making us look JUST LIKE the world and ultimately hinder our evangelism. Remember evangelism? Our ultimate purpose as believers to win others to Christ?
Let’s set an example by owning our sin and repenting of it, not pointing fingers in a kindergarten play of “but they do it too!!!!”
Gordon. Your trying to bring common sense into a conversation with evangelicals and fundamentalist. Who are not Christians. They are self absorbed narcissist who prey on the fear of people. Real simple solutions. Re-elect nobody. Conservatives had the world in 2017-2019. 39 out of 50 governors. The house the senate and the WH and what did they do??? Went full blown RINOs and never trumpers. I have no trust for the GOP. They completely screwed it up. And now the want us to trust them? And the evangelicals that were on the religious council. They did nothing to keep trumps mouth from flapping in the wind. America deserves Gods wrath. American evangelicals mock God every day. There ain’t one ounce of Jesus in any of them. Hey gotta go I got Copeland on the line and he said god wants him to buy another airplane while people in Texas go hungry. The voice of god in there heads is nothing more than there greed rising to the surface.
Whatever flaws these people may have I find that having to scrape through the condescension makes me far less likely to give credence to the rest of it. It’s clear where it comes from, less clear why it is considered a valid style of “reporting”. A little research into the use of the shofar over the past 40 or so years in Pentecostal/Charismatic circles would have helped also. It’s a bit ironic to complain about them mixing politics with religion when some church bodies on the other side of the political spectrum have been doing it for decades and the current admin used churches as campaign propaganda outlets in the most recent election. Neither extreme can throw stones at the other.
When a sensible, courteous opinion such as I posted here is deemed to be ‘offensive’ and/or ‘inappropriate,’ it’s high-time to bail on this ‘Roys Report.’ See ya!
Calling people “messengers of Satan” isn’t exactly courteous.
Why on earth is the former Genera Flynn dressed like that? Egad!
This is a period in time when God is very busy exposing things that have been hidden. Ask God for eyes to see. You will see many articles here of pastors who are now jailed. Judgment comes first to the house of God, but government & judicial are certainly on His list. The Christians must humble themselves to seek God and refrain from judging other believers. Our media & tech culture censor so much, that truth is hard to find. This article was an opinion piece. Seek God with an open heart, asking Him to reveal His perspective. He might just surprise you. His is the only opinion that should matter!
Exactly, I would say be leery of people on both political sides. However, I would also say question yourself if you find yourself on the side of those forcing others to get some type of mark ????????♀️
Yes,Sara. I would take a guess that about 90% of those who hold political office are corrupt. That means both R’s & D’s. We need to hold politics loosely in our hands and seek the Lord for how to vote.
You will know them by their fruit.
I’m praying for this country now more often than I ever had. Confident that God listens & wants revival in our land. People are hurting & ready for Jesus. They just don’t realize He’s their answer yet.
AMEN! You said it perfectly!
Amen. Indeed God is shaking and and exposing many things and I agree we’re going to be seeing more in many places as things continue. God wants to do a new thing.
This type of frenzied fanaticism is scary and in a word, ridiculous. Professing Christians who are caught up in this deification of former President Trump need to take a hard look at their minds and souls. I myself am a conservative and a Christian and am saddened at the Liberal-Lefts miserable and dangerous policies and pray they will be soundly defeated during the next round of elections, but is this kind of thinking/behavior really the way to go?
Sam—in short, no. Politically, I believe Mr. Trump needs to stay out of sight. As a Christian, I’m disgusted with a display like this rally but also don’t see any need to call it “Christian.” As a reader, I find the headline “…to curse Biden” more editorializing than reporting.
‘As a reader, I find the headline “…to curse Biden” more editorializing than reporting.’
It is not editorializing it is a factual statement. To ‘curse’ in this context means to direct curse words at, to ‘cuss out.’ If you do not know what the attendees and those on stage meant while chanting “Let’s go Brandon” then here is some background: https://apnews.com/article/lets-go-brandon-what-does-it-mean-republicans-joe-biden-ab13db212067928455a3dba07756a160
Are you familiar with what their “Let’s go Brandon” chants are referencing? It’s basically having people give the finger during a worship service. Talk about mixing the profane with the holy.
Loren M,
It is no better, or worse, than anything said by the media/left towards DT. If you are going to hold one group to a standard, you must also apply that standard to the other and be honest if they are meeting it or guilty of the same behavior.
Andrew –
Please stop with the “whataboutism”. It is simply a way to deflect sin in attempt to justify it and feel superior to others. A body of fellow believers should not be in a sanctuary chanting a politically charged phrase that has profane meaning. I cannot believe I have to say that on a Christian site.
We need to clean house – scripture call us to take the plank out of our own eye FIRST – and we have a BIG one. We need to judge and correct fellow believers according to the faith they claim to profess. That will purify our witness so we can win others to Christ.
Judging the “media/left/world” by a standard they do not claim to believe in or uphold does little more than come across as moral grandstanding.
“It is no better, or worse, than anything said by the media/left towards DT.”
It is worse, because it is done by people claiming the name of Jesus, sitting in a church pew.
Marin H,
“A body of fellow believers should not be in a sanctuary chanting a politically charged phrase that has profane meaning… Judging the “media/left/world” by a standard they do not claim to believe in or uphold does little more than come across as moral grandstanding.”
What? You are calling out a Church/people for a standard they do not believe in, but saying it is unfair to hold the media/left to a standard they do not believe in.
Either the same standard applies or doesn’t, which is it?
Andrew – this is a body of people claiming to be Christians, and therefore belief in Christ, His word and standards. Their behavior violates this, and it should be called our.
The media/left/world does not hold these same beliefs.
That’s the difference.
A lot of good people at this gathering. The “conspiracy theorists” are proving themselves to be correct these days ????♀️ Just saying. Please recognize the political climate, the purging and dehumanization of “the right”. You’ve been warned.
The Bible prophecies are clear, that there will be “scoffers” in the last days. Those “making fun” of the Biblical words of prophecy. Make sure you know Bible prophecy for yourself. ❤️ (not referring to some one who gets a “word” from God. The actual Biblical prophecies.)
Remember, Jesus said you “will be hated by ALL nations”. If you are not on the “hated” side then you should ask yourself why? Which side is more hated?
Sara: I seem to remember Trump using the line-“a lot of good people”. It makes a difference who we hang out with. BTW, “Liberals” can not always be wrong.
Tom P,
“It makes a difference who we hang out with.”
I seem to remember Jesus Christ “hung out” with sinners (and the sick), what is your point?
Andrew,
Scripture also warns that “bad company corrupts good character.”
And Tom is right – “liberals” cannot always be wrong. Remember when those “communist liberals like MLK” wanted “race mixing”? I do. (And yes, those were the words printed on flyers by an evangelical church and plastered all over my neighborhood)
“bad company corrupts good character.”
Matthew 10:14
11And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. 12And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. 16Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
The Christian community needs to stop placing their faith/trust in a men/women who identify their faith by a political color and hold them to the standard of their character. The “liberal’ vs “conservative” is a false binary, they are 2 sides of the same coin (they both serve Ceaser) and any christian that identifies their faith as a political ideology needs to reread Mt, Mk, Lk, Jn. Both sides are wrong, and both sides resort to the same nonsense to win, it is time we stop lying to ourselves.
Finish the quote and the context. Liberals are not more sinful than conservatives. But that is omitting what really was said.
Seems like Sara is quite the Trump idolator and John Hagee follower….
In regards to John Hagee….
The pastor who lost his AOG credentials when he had an affair with a lady in his church who became the future Wife #2 while he as a pastor and married to Wife #1. He was defrocked and lost his job. But rather than admit he has NOT biblically qualified to be a pastor, he basically gave the finger to God and took a bunch of congregants from his old church to start up his own church. He later initiated and divorced Wife #1 so he could marry Wife #2. The man has been a fraud from the start.
Second, this is par for the course for Hagee, who has sullied and debased his pulpit for decades (not only with him being there) but by his continuous invites of people who are clearly NOT Christians to speak from the pulpit. The pulpit is meant for the proclamation of God’s Word. Benjamin Netanyahu is exhibit A. He is NOT a Christian as he does not believe Christ was the Messiah. But then Hagee’s heresy would overlook that.
If anybody reads down this far, and is struggling with the differing reactions people have to this kind of conference, I highly recommend the podcast Julie did with Michael Graham and Skyler Flowers. It has helped me tremendously to contextualize exactly these kinds of differences.
https://julieroys.com/podcast/the-fracturing-of-evangelicalism-bethlehem-baptist/
These people are scarier than that they would deliver us from.
There are plenty of articles on this platform put the right (politically) in question . Yet, not the left. Terms like “disinformation” “toxic culture” are used for those who are Pro-Trump. There is a level of question by some articles about Covid-19 that lean to the left. Are there any articles that question those who support Biden?
The message of the Bible is not a right-wing conservative message. At the same time, the fact the we live in America does give us right and freedoms to stand for cultural issues. Some do not fall under the realm of the Bible and others do.
John Hagee’s ministry brings a concern. The platform of using the church to promote a right-wing agenda is unbiblical. I believe that both political and Biblical issues are important. This site pushes the left-wing narrative on many issues. I’m not calling it sin or wrong. But calling it for what it is. Bob Smietana definitely has his views on the table. That’s not objective. Whenever one states the narrative without data, that is telling.
I am against canceling Bob Smietana. But to platform on this news organization is telling. The level of virtue and truth from his article(s) cause questions.
Hi Chris –
I’m not sure what you are specifically looking or in terms of questioning those who support Biden. I AM sure that a simple read up and down the comments of this site will show you a prominent attitude of “to not be a Republican/conservative is a sin”, “to be a Democrat/on the left is to support Satan/abortion”, “to not support Trump is to support the Satanic policies of Hillary/Obama/Biden” and PLENTY of name calling in between. None of these attitudes are Biblical. All are oversimplied arguments that demonize those who dare not to be politically conservative.
I don’t even know Julie personally, but I can tell you she (and her site) are FAR from “left-wing”. Criticizing the unBiblical elements of the right-wing agenda does not suddenly make one left-wing anymore than criticizing an unBiblical church makes one an athiest.
I don’t think critiquing both sides is the mission of this website. It’s mission is to hold the conservative evangelical church to account for keeping the faith it professes. It’s similar to how Paul says in 1 Cor 5:12 that he isn’t called to judge those outside the church but rather those within it.
Conservative evangelicals have been really good at pointing the finger at outsiders and those who don’t share our views, but less successful at looking at ourselves with the same level of scrutiny.
Amen Gordon. I don’t understand why people insist that in-house criticism is coming from a leftist position. I’d like to believe the church would raise the bar in it’s political engagements. But as this article illustrates, the bar in the church keeps getting lowered. Now we have these with congregants chanting f-bomb euphemisms in church, and calling that out makes you a liberal? Is it possible to have concerns that aren’t political?
What ???? People cursing the President of the United States in a very large evangelical church…???
I realize the congregation is following their master… Donald Trump, who drops the F-bomb and curses constantly, but for this to happen in a evangelical church is outrageous.
One word…. Ichabod…….the end of the evangelical movement in the U.S.
Gordon Jansma,
I don’t recall Jesus and his Disciples politely and meekly disagreeing with the moneychangers and scribes and then kowtowing to them…
Use of Jesus and the moneychangers to justify every sort of shenanigans and bad behavior from evangelicals has gotten really old. It’s an absurd comparison.
Gordon Hackman,
The perishing world that hates Christ will call any sort of behavior that deviates from their lockstep celebration of debauchery “bad”. Remember we were the hateful extremists in ancient Rome too because we didn’t indulge in gladiatorial games and emperor worship and temple orgies. Think about that.
I’m well aware that the world hates Christians, as Jesus promised they would. That’s irrelevant to the issue of the misapplication of a gospel narrative to justify bad behavior from evangelicals.
Gordon Hackman,
We disagree then on what constitutes “bad behavior”. Jesus called the Pharisees sons of their father, the devil and a brood of vipers. Paul called one of the religious leaders a whitewashed wall. By the standards of the culture then, those were far worse epithets than those issued by conservative figures today.
The notion that chanting Let’s go Brandon is in the same league as Jesus and Paul using strong visual metaphors to describe their opponents is absurd. To me, that’s nothing more than an attempt at rationalization on your part, and it’s a pretty weak one too.
“We disagree then on what constitutes “bad behavior”. Jesus called the Pharisees sons of their father, the devil and a brood of vipers. Paul called one of the religious leaders a whitewashed wall. By the standards of the culture then, those were far worse epithets than those issued by conservative figures today.”
You have said it yourself. Jesus was most critical of those who corrupted the Jewish religion from within, twisting Scripture to line their own pockets, making themselves look holy when they weren’t, and subjugating and controlling the worshippers.
In contrast, Jesus taught “render to Caesar the things which are Caesar’s” (Matt 22, Mark 12, Luke 20).
Paul teaches at greater length how to comport ourselves politically: “First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.” (1 Tim 2:1-2)
I think people expected Donald Trump to act like Donald Trump. They did not expect the church to act like Donald Trump.
It’s unfortunate that the past 30-40 yrs of evangelical history hasn’t featured more direct and intense study of what happens when church & nationalism (or political party or state) collude… every single example in history from the early church till today has gone down in flames and generally leaves horrendous death and misery in its wake… yet this crowd wants a new, neo- church statism… It’s very clear in everything they do and say… they have their dear leader (trump) hand picked already and now they’re thrashing around trying to find a way to reimpose him and themselves upon an unwilling populace and FORCE me, us and everyone else not on their crazy train, to bow the knee and submit to their anti-Christ rule…. and they leap about and clap and hurrah as if such a thing could have a good end… oblivious to the histories of this kind of vile kingdom of earth dressed up in Christianeze…
This attempt at neo-Christendom will NEVER work and God is going to bring it down from whatever ‘success’ it might attain through violence or other anti-Christ means… wake up Sarah… and others of like mind. I speak, not from a place of secularism, but as a Christ follower and church attender… this movement may give you something for a time, but it is doomed – it will fail, utterly… because it doesn’t act or sound like God as revealed in Jesus Christ. And anything apart from that, again will fail. Please get off this train to disaster before it’s too late…
Andrew Zook,
I opposed Trump for six straight years–even now, I think he was far from perfect. That being said–I willfully chose to ignore the great things he did, and his track record for telling the truth. For being a blustery loudmouth with a sordid past–he led the nation in a more Christlike manner than all the professing “Christian” politicians before and around him ever did. I don’t see how any middle-of-the-road sincere believer with open eyes and ears can fail to see that if they have an honest heart.
Do I believe standing for the unborn and speaking truth about the enemies of our faith and democracy outweigh a few mean tweets and swear words? Yes, I do.
I don’t know why God raised him up and used him–I too would have preferred a “cleaner” and more eloquent mouthpiece for conservatism, but we had that in George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney and in three of those four cases, the public soundly rejected them. So, God gave us what we wanted. God raised up Cyrus, David Nebuchadnezzar, Jacob, Samson, Peter and many more leaders with significant character faults and some of them we are even told were pillars of the faith.
Well the Republican Primary will begin the months to come, and then Trump will engage in all his typical character assassinations against his Republican opponents… just like he did in 2016 and 2020 and then all the evangelicals will just say …..aw shucks….