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Calvary Chapel Pastor Runs Persecution-Themed Boot Camp With ‘Simulated Torture,’ Former Students Say

By Rebecca Hopkins
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Chet Lowe speaks to students participating in a Patmos Reality Discipleship Intensive, in a photo from October 2015. (Photo via Facebook)

Influential and up-and-coming Calvary Chapel pastor, Chet Lowe, runs a Christian boot camp in southern California that simulated torture as a part of its discipleship process, according to numerous former students who spoke recently with The Roys Report (TRR).

The students said the boot camp—Patmos: Reality Discipleship—pushed them beyond their breaking point. Patmos used firing squads and middle-of-the-night chases by “Muslims” to make them rely on God, they said, leaving some traumatized and some questioning their faith. One said she left the camp in a wheelchair. Another said he was forced to survive alone outside in the snowy mountains for four days with only communion crackers and grape juice.

“It was meant to break you down,” said Ashley Ruiz, a former student and former staff member at Patmos. “That’s what abusers do. They break you down and they put you back together the way they want you to be. That’s exactly what Chet would do. He viewed that as his mission. People need to know who he is and what he’s done.”

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Chet Lowe (Photo: Calvary Chapel South Bay)

Lowe, a former missionary, was appointed as senior pastor of 8,000-member church Calvary Chapel South Bay (CCSB) earlier this year.

In recent years, Lowe has also been given access to resources from Calvary Chapel’s flagship church, Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa (CCCM), for his Patmos boot camp, former students say. The students added that Lowe has also been allowed to recruit students from Calvary Chapel Bible College, Calvary’s main Bible college. And Lowe has used the college campus for Patmos discipleship as recently as 2018, a college spokesperson confirmed.

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Patmos also has inspired a spin-off version of Patmos for eighth graders, called Pierced. This was started in Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale by a different youth pastor while Lowe was still a pastor there, former students told TRR.

CCCM’s Senior Pastor Brian Brodersen and Jeff Gill, former CCSB senior pastor and a former Patmos board member, have not responded to TRR’s requests for comment.

The Roys Report has repeatedly reached out to Chet Lowe for comment, but he has not responded.

The camp for “radical disciples” was born

Lowe founded Patmos to create “radical disciples” in 2005, while working as the adult family and outreach pastor at Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, the Patmos website and his church bio state. On its website, Patmos markets itself as a 16-week adventure camp for adults aged 18-35 to “stretch you spiritually, mentally, physically and emotionally to drive you to the feet of Jesus.”

Lowe left the Fort Lauderdale church in 2015 for California, bringing Patmos with him. From 2016 to 2021, Lowe worked as senior pastor of the nondenominational church, Coast Hills Church. During this time, he also held Patmos “intensives” at a CCCM camp in California, Green Valley Lake Christian Camp, which was founded by Calvary Chapel founder Chuck Smith.

In April 2020, Patmos survivors began telling their stories of “cult”-like behavior on a Calvary Chapel watchdog site, Phoenix Preacher. In August 2020, Patmos and Pierced survivors also formed a Facebook support group called Pierced by Patmos: We are not alone, now at 38 members.

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Students participate in a Patmos: Reality Discipleship intensive, in an undisclosed location. (Photo via Patmos Reality)

The American-run Patmos camp hasn’t had intensive camps since 2019 due to the pandemic, said Gaby Estrada, executive assistant at Coast Hills Church.

But a Patmos branch in El Salvador that Lowe founded—and where he sometimes teaches—has been meeting this year, Estrada said. If the U.S.-based Patmos begins its camp again, Lowe will run it out of Calvary Chapel South Bay, she added.

What happens at Patmos stays at Patmos

Eight former students, ranging from the 2007 Patmos class to the 2016 class, came forward to The Roys Report with similar stories. They said they found Patmos through their Calvary Chapels all over the country—Montana, Colorado, California, Oregon, Florida, and New Jersey. Two former students—Justin Nguyen and Victoria Venard—found it through their college, Calvary Chapel Bible College in Twin Peaks, California, and earned college credit for it.

Former Patmos students said they didn’t know what they were getting into. They said they weren’t supposed to talk about what happened with others outside of Patmos, either to keep the surprise for future Patmos students, or because Patmos leaders said those on the outside wouldn’t understand. This message was confirmed in a packet sent by the Patmos admissions team, saying “for some, your decision will not be understood nor supported.” Some students said they were forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

“Now I look back and I’m like, ‘Oh my gosh, what are you doing?’” said former student Rebekah Dispoto. “But at the time, I was like, ‘These people are Christians and they love God. So, they’re not going to do something that would harm me.’”

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Promotional photo for Patmos: Reality Discipleship intensive (Photo via website)

Lowe encouraged students to seek donations for the $5,500 experience, according to documents obtained by TRR. Much of it happened in other countries—the Bahamas, Brazil, Mexico, El Salvador—without safeguards or accountability, students said.

Students were required to journal about what God was teaching them through various “challenges” and extreme workouts, which they said were often demeaning and dangerous, and left some feeling like failures. Two former students—Elijah Olachea and Victoria Venard—shared portions of their journals with TRR.

One workout lasted six hours with no stopping for drinking water—to represent hell for those who hadn’t been raptured, said Venard, who attended in 2015 in California. If a student left to use the bathroom, they were told they would be kicked out of the program, she said. A commitment letter the students were required to sign gave leaders “sole discretion” to remove students without refunding fees.

During “persecution week,” leaders pretended to be Muslims who chased them all night long, and required them to simulate injuries, such as losing limbs or tongues. Students had to carry the “injured” students with them, said Dispoto and Olachea. Recordings of the Quran being chanted played over a loudspeaker, said Ruiz.

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Journal entry by a former Patmos student, Elijah Olachea.

Venard’s class feared they’d run into bears or mountain lions in the vast forest where they’d hide all night long. She witnessed leaders dumping cold water on a young woman several times—in the winter—as punishment for her teammates not completing grueling workouts.

Another woman was made to swim across a lake during the winter, a couple weeks before the San Bernadino mountains got snow, Venard said. A young man in her class was forced into a storage container for two days with no way to keep warm, she added.

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Journal entry by former Patmos student, Victoria Venard.

In a 2016 class in California, leaders forced bags onto the students’ heads, dragged them into the bathroom, kicked them, and forced their heads under faucets, said Justin Nguyen. Then the staff lined up students—bags still on their heads—and fired off a real gun with blanks, said Nguyen.

Fellow 2016 classmate John Wooley said interns wrapped his head—covering his eyes—with duct tape and forced him into a closet for two days. Once a day, someone would open the door and throw a dinner roll at him.

Nguyen said he was made to live out on a small metal boat in the woods in the middle of a snowy winter in the California mountains for four days. He said he found toilet paper to stuff into his clothes to keep warm.

In the 2009 Bahamas class, students were made to sign documents without being allowed to read them, which ended up being travel documents to Brazil, said Ruiz, Dispoto, and Olachea. One student refused to sign it and he was kicked out of the program, Dispoto said.

All the students said there was no medical personnel at these camps, monitoring the often extreme weight loss, injuries, and cold weather challenges. Patmos was training them to be missionaries, and the reasoning was, missionaries wouldn’t have access to hospitals, said Venard.

Lowe would regale the students with epic missionary tales that added to his stature, said Dispoto.

“He saved people, the devil was coming after him . . . He accomplished all these things for God,” she said.  

In his autobiography, Living Parable, Lowe tells how at age 13, he was made to smuggle Bibles into China as part of a missions trip. He writes about near-death encounters in Liberia, where Lowe moved in 1995 with his wife and 4-month-old baby in the middle of a civil war. Lowe’s church bio states that in a period of five years, he started 17 churches and seven rehabilitation homes that ministered to 1,500 child soldiers.

“(Lowe) was this big, larger than life, prophet personality,” said Lauren Chastain who knew Lowe through family connections. “He was known for speaking for God into people’s lives.”

Chet Lowe preaches at Calvary Chapel South Bay on Feb 15, 2016. (Source: Video screengrab)

‘Come to Jesus’ breakdowns, long-term effects

Several former Patmos students talked about how Lowe spoke authoritatively, but also had a way of drawing in students. Venard said she wanted to please Lowe, wanted him to be proud of her, wanted to be chosen by him to be a Patmos leader.

Students struggling with mental illness were also drawn to Patmos and Lowe, hoping for the camp to heal them, said Dispoto. She struggled with self-cutting and depression. But during an intense time of questioning in what Lowe called the “Cabin of Conviction” meant to change her, she said Lowe seemed to taunt her.

“He says, ‘So, do you really want to kill yourself because I’ll get a knife from the kitchen and you can slit your wrists right here,’” Dispoto said.

During the initial days of the pandemic, Dispoto reconnected with her class from Patmos through Zoom, then started the private Facebook group for Patmos and Pierced survivors. Many former students told TRR that it took them years to see the toxicity of the teaching on the importance of extreme submission and suffering.

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Students were required to fast from food at a moment’s notice—sometimes for days, Olachea said. He attended the same camp as Dispoto did in 2009. Olachea’s parents signed a waiver to allow him to leave to go to the Bahamas with Patmos at age 17, he said. The week of his 18th birthday, Patmos leaders required students to fast from three to five days, he said. Olachea chose five days, but on the last day of the fast, the students were required to run 10 miles.

Olachea continued the long fasting periods once he got back home “to prove to God that I was radical enough,” developing into what he called a “God-shaped eating disorder.”

Sometimes the leaders’ attempts to “break” students went too far. Olachea said he was so exhausted from carrying two cinder blocks over his head for days—and then being required to do lunges—that he momentarily considered walking onto a busy street to get hit by a bus.

“The whole thing is facilitated for you to have basically like a ‘come-to-Jesus moment’ when you’re in the position where you can’t rely on anything else but the Lord,” Olachea said.

Dispoto said she injured a knee in an intense workout—it “collapsed” while doing a burpee—but she kept going because Lowe would keep pushing them. She then “blew out” her other knee, both knees swelling at least twice their usual size, she said.

Several days later, Lowe finally allowed her to see a Bahamian doctor who told her there was nothing he could do and told her to use a wheelchair, Dispoto said. Later at home, she said a doctor told her she could do surgery or physical therapy. She declined the surgery, but still struggles with pain.

Olachea confirmed that Dispoto was injured and was required to use a wheelchair.

Students were allowed to leave early, but former students said leaders would shame, shun, and spiritually abuse them. Wooley said Lowe was rarely at his camp. Lowe put immature leaders in their 20s in charge, so Wooley decided to leave early.

Wooley said the person who took him to the airport told him to remember that he had signed a nondisclosure agreement and should not talk about the experience to anyone.

When another student, Charles Baker, tried to explain to Lowe his reasons for leaving early, that it wasn’t helping him, Lowe reportedly told him he was “bitter.”

The Patmos experience wasn’t cheap. Most students remembered a $4,000-$6,000 price tag. The documented amount for the 2016 class was $5,500. But when Ruiz worked there, she said very little of that translated into her salary—just $300 a month. She said she had to raise or fund the rest of her salary.

Each term is limited to 24 students, Patmos’ website states. Official financial figures aren’t publicly available. Due to Patmos’ religious, tax-exempt status with the IRS, Patmos isn’t required to file 990 tax forms. Annual reports that Patmos filed with the Florida Department of State list its board of directors, but no financial figures.

A history of abusive boot camps

In 2005, after being arrested for alcohol possession as a minor, Ashley Ruiz was forced by her parents to choose between a residential treatment center and Montana-based discipleship camp, Potter’s Field—Patmos’ predecessor. 

Potter’s Field was a Montana discipleship boot camp where Lowe used to work, Ruiz said. It was run by former Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale (CCFL) worship minister, Pam Rozell and her husband, Michael Rozell. Potter’s Field was open until 2019, but closed when former students accused Michael Rozell of verbal abuse, overworking them, and sexual harassment.

Lowe convinced Ruiz to choose Potter’s Field, saying it would change her life, Ruiz said. Ruiz went, struggling through it. But when Lowe “positioned himself as a father figure” in her life, she followed him to Patmos as staff when he launched the first session in 2007. Ruiz then served as his assistant off and on until 2010.

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In a photo posted in September 2019, Chet Lowe teaches students in El Salvador. (Photo via Facebook)

While Lowe was still a pastor at CCFL, Mike Rust, a CCFL youth pastor started Pierced, a “mini-Patmos” for eighth graders, said former student Jenna Voutsinas, from the 2013 class. Wearing army fatigues and carrying airsoft guns, leaders awakened students at 3 a.m., she said. Rust bullied students, said Lizzie Chastain, who attended in 2016.

Rust is being sued for sexually abusing a minor in the 1980s when he was a mentor for a Jehovah’s Witness church in Florida. Rust was fired from CCFL when the lawsuit was filed in 2019, confirmed Katy Mills, executive director of engagement at CCFL. CCFL ended the Pierced program at that time, Mills said.

Rust did not return TRR’s request for comment.

According to Mills, CCFL broke ties with Patmos in 2015.

Despite former students’ stories of abuse from Patmos’ first camp, Mills said Patmos was likely initially “healthy.”

“Typically, what happens in programs like that . . . they start out healthy but when the leader becomes unhealthy, the program becomes unhealthy,” she said. “We’re a church. We don’t need to be extreme camping.”

Patmos’ move to California, a report of abuse

After leaving the Fort Lauderdale church, God told Lowe to “rebuild” and “revive” in California, Lowe’s church bio states. Lowe posted on Patmos’ website in June 2015 about partnering with Calvary Chapel Bible College (CCBC) and Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa.

Nguyen, Venard, and former CCBC student Sam Morgan all said CCBC allowed Lowe—who also taught at CCBC—to recruit students from the college into Patmos.

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Students participate in a Patmos: Reality Discipleship intensive (Photo via Facebook)

Patmos limited students’ communication to people on the outside. But at a 2016 camp, Nguyen said he found a way to reach out to friends who were students at CCBC about his experiences. His friend, Sam Morgan, told Jeremey Wilson, then a CCBC staff member, about possible abuse happening there. Wilson confirmed to TRR that he suggested they, together, report the concerns to Andy Deane, who was director of the college at the time.

In a meeting with Wilson and Morgan, Deane said he knew Lowe well, trusted his methods, but said he’d connect Morgan with Lowe, both Wilson and Morgan told TRR. A few emails later, Morgan didn’t feel like Deane or Lowe were taking his concerns seriously. Deane offered to set up a meeting to talk further, but never did, Morgan said.

“The whole situation kind of just got dropped,” Morgan said.

Deane, who is now pastor of Cornerstone Community Church, did not return several attempts by TRR for comment.

As recently as 2018, Patmos has used CCBC’s campus for its program, confirmed CCBC’s student life coordinator Kayla Peterson.

CCBC’s current president didn’t answer TRR’s request for comment.

Don’t ‘just go to reporters’

The families who still have concerns about Pierced or Patmos can come directly to Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale with their hurts and concerns, said Mills.

“If they just go to reporters, then that healing can’t take place with their church or making sure it doesn’t happen again,” said Mills. “We don’t want to leave that hurt out there.”

But processing the trauma with church leaders may not feel safe, said Lauren Chastain, mother of Lizzie.

“What it would take for true healing to happen is for them to actually acknowledge that they’ve done something wrong and make amends with the victims,” said Chastain. “Pay for the therapy. Help them navigate these traumatized waters that we are all drowning in. Saying you’re sorry we’re hurt doesn’t make it right.”

This article has been updated to correctly identify Pam Rozell. 

Rebecca Hopkins is a journalist based in Colorado.

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  1. First rule of weirdo church camp…don’t talk about weirdo church camp. In all seriousness, I hope someone does not get badly hurt at this sham.

  2. I can’t find any biblical basis to do such a thing. Nobody is ready for persecution until it happens. God gives grace when grace and strength are needed to endure such things. This practice is just weird.

    1. Besides which, it’s always those who brag the loudest about their Faithful Witness in the face of Glorious Martyrdom who are the first to cut and run when their Fantasy becomes Reality.

      And PERSECUTION!!!!! has been redefined down to become another meaningless dogwhistle buzzword.

  3. Why are these so called pastors still preaching? Every case is the same thing, they abuse and they are back in the church. And these so called counselors putting these people
    Back in the pulpit is disgusting. As a church what are we doing? No wonder so many are leaving!

    1. Exactly!!! And why has the Law not been involved? These abusers should be behind bars and their “camps/churches” shut down.

  4. Chet Lowe. classic control freak who knows only in the evangelical indusial complex can he get away with this stuff. his bragging about his past is for his glory alone. its a “look at me look at me aren’t I wonderful” Unskilled in any type of training and just winging it. I’ll bet NONE of those staff members are veterans and probably living out some sick fantasy because they know they wouldn’t have the guts to go thru a real boot camp. In USMC bootcamp we had to do a lot of dangerous things and physically exhausting. BUT there was always Corpman around and TRAINED DIs around training us. These are a bunch of Bullys getting their jolly’s off thinking they are training people for the rapture. All they are doing is teaching fear. Sick sick sick. And the parents are worse for allowing them to go and pay for the abuse. American Christianity is full of some really sick people all abusing God’s word for their narrative and profit.

    1. Gary, I for one hope he doesn’t get away with this.

      If these things happened in California, surely there must be laws that cover abuse like this. I hope that laws regarding hazing are not written so strictly towards university fraternities that “Christian hazing” is allowed.

      1. Hazing in CA seems specific to student organizations.

        I think one law that may apply is Penal Code 422, on “Criminal Threats.”

  5. It seems odd to me that people will subject themselves to what was asked of them here. If a family member of mine told me they were put in these life threatening situations while in one of these events I would be having a very serious sit down with pastor Lowe whether he wanted to or not. I am glad to see a light being shown on characters such as pastor Lowe. I don’t know if he answers to anyone at Calvary chapel but I think answers need to be demanded of them as to whether they are aware of and support this kind of activity.

    1. “It seems odd to me that people will subject themselves to what was asked of them here.”

      Not only that, but pay big $$$$$ for it.

      “I don’t know if he answers to anyone at Calvary Chapel …”

      He doesn’t.
      Papa Chuck’s “Moses Model” gives CC Pastors ABSOLUTE POWER over their CC and its pewsitters, Responsible to Nobody Except GOD. And GOD always goes along with what Pastor wants to do. Always.

      “If you question anything I do
      YOU REBEL AGAINST THE FATHER, TOO!”
      — Steve Taylor, “I Manipulate”

  6. The more I think about this the angrier I get. Fake Muslims chase them? Fake firing squads? This type of activity goes on in the military preparing pilots in the event of capture. The people running these programs are skilled in how to push people, but not make them snap. I remember the trainers (I was in the air wing) would have marine grunts from camp lejeune to go try to find them hiding in the woods. Trained infantry seeking the enemy and trained mature pilots and aircrews learning how to hid and evade capture. But these are trained pilots and aircrews who already survived boot camp. All there doing is taking amateur bully’s and using these tactics on kids who maybe did some camping. Not the same there Chet Lowe. He is the worst example of a control freak and these evangelical churches keep them around is beyond my understanding.

  7. This is just plain daffy. This is a cult by any definition. And, this is what happens whenever a pastor becomes an up-and-coming “star”. Deification and all that flows from it are bound to happen.

  8. I grew up in Calvary Chapel and attended the Bible College in Murrieta during the transition for Andy to become the dean. We’d heard about the Patmos camps but most thought they were overpriced and kinda dumb I think Andy might’ve even suggested that. Also someone mentioned they weren’t very safe. Chet Lowe built a platform as the young adults guy he was a super star for some people like I knew some who would drive the 4hr round trip every week to the group he ran. He published a magazine that CC youth groups could go through called Lift, but it was kinda shallow so our pastor stopped after the first couple of weeks. I can totally see this kind of thing happening, half baked ideas with altruistic motives paired with persecution prepping was always an attention getter. This was Chet’s thing like it was pushed through because it was CC Bible college. Like I wouldn’t be too hard on Andy he wasn’t an establishment dude but he had the position and there was only so much he could do but I remember he definitely wasn’t stoked on it. If you have any questions feel free to reach out.

  9. Unfortunately, I have a Calvary Chapel background. I have been involved in several over the course of 20 years. Calvary Chapel Laguna Creek and Calvary Chapel Northcity (both in Northern California) and two here in Chattanooga where I currently live. Calvary Chapel Chattanooga and Calvary Chapel Northside (formerly Hixson). Spiritual abuse abounds in all four of them. There is zero accountability in these churches. The pastors run roughshod under the “Moses model”. I have personal experience with the 4 pastors from these churches. I walked out traumatized each and every time. It has been a nightmare.

    1. You can only use the “Moses model” after God has spoken to you from a burning bush. No burning bush? Then you ain’t Moses, bud.

      What gets me is that people seem to loose their grown-up thinking when a ‘pastor’ is involved, and he (she?) starts using the word ‘Jesus’ so casually to manipulate people.

      Jesus is our Lord, Creator and Saviour, not a fan boy prop. A pastor is a servant/shepherd of the church. Paul gives us the qualities to look for.

  10. Infuriating.
    This cult leader and the church deserves a class action law suit and those people who were directly involved in the abuse need to go to jail.

      1. “How are legal measure not being discussed openly?”

        Ever heard of “Touch Not Mine Anointed”?

        A LOT of abusive cult-like pastors get themselves in good with local law enforcement and authorities. Sometimes they hire off-duty cops as “security” enforcers. Sometimes they make sure cops and local government are members of their church or otherwise in Pastor’s Pocket. Some even become Police Chaplains to get on the “Cop” side of the Code of Blue — Cop will always side with and defend Cop against Not-Cop.

        Successful predators groom Friends and Allies in High Places as well as their victims.

  11. First off, Semper Fi to Gary from a retired Air Force NCO.

    And Gary, you are right. Some of these programs are abusive and run by bully wannabes.
    I remember listening to an interview by a now-actress who grew up in Colo. Springs and attended an evangelical church there. Like many teens in her church she signed up to go to India and help at a mission for two weeks one summer. But the orientation course in Colo. Springs with masked, armed men, hostage-taking, etc. was worse than what military aircrews are put through – a female Air Force pilot told her that.

    1. thank you, Brian and God Bless, you my brother of the uniform and cross. I know USAF pilots went thru the same type of training and ALWAYS medics and skilled trainers were there to know when to stop and regroup.

    2. I was reminded of the Colo. Springs story as well. I believe that one was related to a YWAM base. My recollection of that story was it being the result of young, immature leaders lacking common sense. As G.W. Bush put it, “when I was young and stupid, I was young and stupid.”

  12. “But at the time, I was like, ‘These people are Christians and they love God. So, they’re not going to do something that would harm me.’”

    Wrong. Beware of those who claim to be Christians. You will know a true Christian by their love.

    And to the evil ones running this sham I declare the following:

    MENE MENE TEKEL PARSIN

  13. I pray that everyone who reads this article would first try to be humble before passing judgment. Pray that pastor Chet Lowe and the Patmos organization will have the time and discernment they need to respond to all of these accusations.

    1. And the Calvary Chapel Truth Squad shows up to Defend the Faith.

      Just like on every blog exposing abusive churches and Pastor Superapostles. Though usually they sign on with handles like “Concerned Christian” or something that Virtue-Signals their Godliness.

    2. Donald And why were being humble the world laughs at Christians and a malignant narcissist is profiting off hurting people under the guise of preparing for something that may or may not happen. I’ve been listening to this “the rapture is soon” tactic since the seventies. It’s okay to point the finger at evil and say WRONG.

        1. Ahhh I’m assuming you mean if I don’t know them how can I judge them. Easy. By their complete works. Including this alleged camp preparing for being left behind after the rapture. That interpretation is massively misused and misunderstood and no two denominations agree if it will ever occur. When pastors spend alot of time giving there history that’s a red flag. Evangelicals love to expound on their greatness. How about this resume. I accepted christ and was led to many opportunities to bring people to Christ. The more a pastor boast’s of his life time of godliness, the more I realize it’s about him. That’s called a narcissist. Next question?

        2. Hey Donald. Read the two august 22nd comments. More examples of no accountability in many evangelical churches. But plenty of denials. And they apparently know Chet personally. Until Christians realize that pastors are not one step below God. and we are merely the peasants required to suck in every thought by trying to convince us if we challenge pastors or people who claim to be prophets then hod will get us, Christians are doomed. I believe there is scripture on that. God didn’t say ( I am the lord thy pastor and you shall have no other pastors before me). The evangelical industrial complex and televangelists have shown themselves for who they are. A destructive force abusing gods word for profit and gain.

        3. Donald – I believe your engagement here is sincere and important for civil discourse and journalistic integrity… so I’ll answer one of your questions. I know Chet personally from CCFL. I don’t know Rebecca. I am still checking her sourcing (because I do that), but so far it’s coming up clean. The article was sent to me by a dear friend who was personally abused by Chet while working for him as a very young adult. There are also enough details in the text (names, dates, places, etc.) of which I have personal knowledge to give me significant confidence that Hopkins’ account is accurate. I did not realize he had relocated himself or this demonic program to CA. My adopted home state feels a little less safe now. I will be happy to come back here and let you know if I find anything to dispute Hopkins’ well sourced journalistic claims. In the meantime, my personal advice would be to consider that what she says here is not only believable but also the tip of a very ugly iceberg.

  14. Not intending to be an apologist for Pastor Chet but is it possible that the Patmos training is intended to expose future missionaries to the realities of persecution outside of the US? Living in America and enjoying all our freedoms clouds what goes on in the mission fields. Just positing an alternative point of view. Thank you all.

    1. If these were actual people preparing to go overseas then the church via LEO or veterans should be the trainers for preparation not a bunch of unskilled people thinking there really helping. I guarantee you Brian Churchill (see name in commercial) and I have forgotten more about these subjects then these “trainers” know. But these are a bunch of maybes or kinda want to or hey I want to be prepared for the rapture and I’m stuck here type of people. A friend went to Africa and not the nice part to build some plumbing. She didn’t get anywhere close to the training that Chet Lowe uses. They did get trained on potential issues but not what Chet Lowe thinks is needed. This is nothing but ego fulfillment on his and the staffs emotions. BTW the people that prepared her were veterans.

  15. Ultimately, is Jesus honored through this… or disgraced? I’m angry that a good Bible-believing church like Calvary Chapel has no oversight over activities where someone with some wisdom could repeatedly inspect/audit the “camp” and it’s program and establish appropriate boundaries. It angers me that this now makes Calvary Chapel look like a “cult.” I’m outraged at how unsafe it was. I’m outraged that we have hurt innocent youth physically and mentally and igonored their concerns and pleas for help. Would Jesus listen to the innocent, or ignore them? Would Jesus step in and stop this maddess, or allow it to continue? Finally I’m disappointed in all the church leaders with the “no comments.” Legally that’s smart for the pending lawsuits, but where is your HEART? Who cares about lawsuits when your youth are abused in the name of ministry? How about simple: “Hearing these stories hurts my heart and we are cooperating and investigating. Anyone who suffered anything from this situation – we are deeply concerned and grieved. You are encouraged to contact us immediately and we will do whatever we can, including listening to your complete story, full heart-felt apologies, asking for your forgiveness, rectifying/deconstructing the current camp, prayer before God, and offering theropy or offering to pay for independant theorpy if necessary.” The church should not circle the wagons and protect itself. The church should open its arms and humble itself in grieving that this occured. A business protects the business. The body of Christ ministers to the broken, regardless of the outcome.

  16. I also have some stories from Calvary chapel fort Lauderdale and their discipleship. Redeeming Love home for women. If there’s anyone willing to hear my story I’d love to share it. They made us work so many hours cleaning and the old director would “discipline” us.

    1. Stefany-there are many of us willing to hear your story. What you are describing about Redeeming Love is exactly what we hear about Renew (men’s and women’s) here at Calvary Chapel Chattanooga. CCChatt “leaders” come from CCFL.

  17. Yes, persecution is hitting the U.S. church and will likely get worse. But guess what? The Bible has plenty of practical teaching about how to handle it when it comes! I’ve done scripture studies with teens about this, including frank discussions about the decisions they might have to make when shamed, threatened, abused, etc., and what the scriptures say to do to be ready.

    That and prayer is literally all any believer needs! NOT some bizarre, expensive, cult-like, reality-show type bootcamp. That is demonic cultism supplanting the simple teaching of God’s Word. It reminds me of the old New Age Erhard Seminar Training (EST), later The Forum, and the Moonie Camps in the So Cal mountains. To get ready for persecution, just rely on the Bible and the HS, not some whacko heretic teachers.

  18. Patmos’ web site states, “This discipleship experience is a 24/7, 16-week adventure of faith and tithe of time to the Lord where students are taught lessons based on the discipleship style of Jesus.” In response, Jesus’ method of discipleship, after He called His disciples, began with the disciples first watching Jesus minister to others, then Jesus teaching His disciples, and challenging their faith in various ways that have absolutely nothing to do with forcing someone’s head under a faucet, being chased in the middle of the night by fake Muslims, being forced to survive in the snowy mountains, etc. to mentally and physically break down a person. If a ministry chooses to offer a program like this, then call it boot camp, not discipleship.

  19. There’s a 101 ways to teach self-discipline to young people. The way this pastor is doing it is not one of them.

  20. Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale pushed and promoted Patmos for years. Now they act as if they had nothing to do with it

    My family was stalked by a young man after someone from that church advised him that god can heal him from Schizophrenia. His mom reached out to me and together we saw a biblical counselor at Calvary ftl who basically dropped the ball and offered no help. I saw the hope leave this mother.

    Fast forward a month he was arrested after he tried to break in to kill us and go after my daughter. See he was sending my kids some crazy messages. He camped out for three days in army fatigues in our back yard. My kids and wife were barricades in a bathroom as he tried knocking down door. He was arrested and rots away now.

    My daughter is 23 and is getting her phd in child physiology. No one has ever reached out to her to offer any counseling or escorts to court hearing where she had to see this guy.

    I spoke to Doug on the phone one time about coming back to church and he asked me if I had apologized to Chet. When I told him my hurt was deeper than that and told him this story he just said he didn’t remember and that was that. No hey we should talk more about that and see how we can help. No that was that.

    I still have to carry this hurt around and it sucks. I often think about how this could of been avoided if counselors their respected mental health.

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