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Rick Warren Condemns Abuse By Robert Morris, Sparking Pushback from Alleged Victims of Abuse by Warren’s Successor

By Josh Shepherd
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L-R: Andy Wood, lead pastor of Saddleback Church; author and longtime Saddleback pastor Rick Warren; Robert Morris, disgraced founding pastor of Gateway Church. (Video screengrab)

Best-selling author and longtime pastor Rick Warren says he is “angry and disgusted” by “Robert Morris’ sexual abuse of a child,” calling it an “evil punishable by law.” Alleged victims of spiritual abuse by Warren’s successor at Saddleback Church, Andy Wood, agree. But they expressed anger that Warren has referred to their abuse as “conflict,” and never addressed years of what they say was Wood’s abuse and bullying of staff. 

“(We) have been through enough of being exploited and having our abuse covered up and minimized as ‘just conflict,’” said Lori Adams-Brown, an alleged victim of Wood’s abuse at his former Echo Church in San Jose. “Rick is no hero for abuse survivors. I urge him to deal with his own abuse coverup before pointing fingers.” 

Warren posted his comments on X last week, referring to the recently alleged child sexual abuse by now-resigned Gateway Church pastor Robert Morris. “To sexually use a 12 yr old child, then continue it for yrs, is not merely an ‘inappropriate relationship.’ It’s a crime,” wrote Warren. “Sexual child abuse is an evil punishable by law.” 

Though sexual abuse is a severe violation, Maureen Griffo of the International Cultic Studies Association writes that spiritual abuse is “rape of the soul.” Victims are “manipulated in ways that cause detrimental changes to core elements of the self, including one’s relationship to God, religious/philosophical beliefs, self-determination, and the capacity to think independently.”

As reported by The Roys Report (TRR), both Lori Adams-Brown and her husband, Jason Adams-Brown, claim Wood bullied and spiritually abused them during their time at Echo Church. Similarly, Lance Hough, a former creative arts pastor at Echo’s Fremont campus, told TRR that Echo was “toxic and unhealthy,” and that Wood demanded unquestioned obedience from staff.

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Incoming Saddleback Pastor Andy Wood (right) appears in a video with Pastor Rick Warren, who’s retiring. (Source: Video screengrab)

An investigation commissioned by Saddleback Church, after hiring Wood, reportedly cleared Wood of the allegations.

But Saddleback has never released the full report of the investigation. And some former Echo staff allege Vanderbloemen, the executive hiring agency that conducted the investigation, minimized victims’ voices to protect Wood.

Also, several former Echo staff told TRR that Wood required staff at Echo Church, which he founded, to sign non-disclosure agreements (NDAs). Some of these former staff told TRR that they didn’t participate in the investigation because of their NDAs.

TRR reached out to Warren and Saddleback Church repeatedly through a spokesperson with several questions but did not receive a response. 

Lori Adams-Brown told TRR she refused to sign an NDA. In an interview with TRR, she said Warren’s recent statement has “retraumatized the Echo survivors,” including herself. 

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Lori Adams-Brown and her husband, Jason, speak to journalist Julie Roys over Zoom about their experience with Andy Wood, now pastor of Saddleback Church. (Source: Video screengrab)

In his post condemning sexual abuse, Warren referenced past abuse that his wife experienced. He wrote, “Until the Church realizes the soul-destroying trauma of sexual abuse, the pattern will continue. Kay still remembers the horror of being molested in church as a little girl.” 

Jason Adams-Brown said it is “baffling” to hear Warren speaking out on issues of abuse after what has transpired. 

“A pastor has a very high calling to care for those in his church,” he said. “Spiritual abuse is incredibly damaging and should be taken very seriously. “

Stop the ‘bro club’ abuse cover-up, say survivors

In his recent post about Morris, Warren also criticized how elders of Gateway Church in north Texas apparently allowed Morris to resign rather than be fired as senior pastor. 

“One can’t just confess when caught and move on with no consequences,” wrote Warren. “For the integrity of Christ’s Body, God insists ‘Expel the wicked person out of your church!’ 1 Cor. 5:13. Perpetrators are to be publicly fired, not allowed to resign.” 

Jason Adams-Brown agreed with the substance, noting Morris’ victim who came forward has “endured so much.” Adams-Brown added, referring to leaders of Gateway Church, “If they are truly bothered and mourning this, they should at the very least offer to pay for her many years of therapy.”

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Pastor Robert Morris preaches at Gateway Church in Southlake, Texas. (Photo: Facebook)

Yet Lori Adams-Brown noted the hypocrisy of Warren’s statement, naming Wood and former Echo Church Executive Pastor Filipe Santos, who has since become that church’s lead pastor. 

“Rick has given zero accountability to Andy Wood,” she said. “By promoting Wood as his Saddleback successor, Rick put the staff and entire church at risk of abuse. And Echo survivors warned him about the bullying, belittling, coercion, name-calling, intimidation, retaliation, and mobbing we experienced by Andy Wood and Filipe Santos.”

Currently, more than 1,600 people have signed a public petition for the current leadership of Echo Church to release all former employees from any NDAs. . 

Adams-Brown noted how Warren cited Proverbs 31:8 in his post, which states in part: “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves.” 

She called it “blatant spin,” saying, “Rick portrays himself as speaking for the voiceless, even as he did nothing to get Andy’s victims’ NDAs released at Echo Church.” 

TRR reached out to Echo Church for comment but did not receive a response. 

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Rick Warren’s successor at Saddleback Church, Andy Wood, preaches on Easter 2022 at his previous church, Echo Church in San Jose, California (Video screengrab)

Beyond staff who worked with Wood, others have spoken out. The leader of a California Baptist association, Mike Stewart, has stated that Wood has a predatory pattern of trying to acquire multi-million-dollar properties from small, aging congregations.

Recent years have seen some churches become “trauma-informed and survivor centered,” said Adams-Brown. She cited the work of Dr. Diane Langberg and churches that engaged independent groups like GRACE (Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment). 

“Rick didn’t listen to the survivors, and I urge him to reckon with that,” said Adams-Brown. “We need transparency, truth, and pastors who come clean. Stop the ‘bro club’ cover up of all types of abuse.”

Freelance journalist Josh Shepherd writes on faith, culture, and public policy for several media outlets. He and his family live in the Washington, D.C. area.

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  1. “Warren posted his comments on X last week”

    I wonder why he felt the situation needed his input. Maybe he feels like people have forgotten he exists since his retirement.

  2. While I agree with what is said here, I think it is a good thing that Rick Warren condemned what Robert Morris did.

    And I believe every pastor who has ever associated with Morris should do the same thing.

    Mark Driscoll should step up to the plate.

  3. Birds of same feather….. all 3 of them cut from same cloth. Male leaders have passed their appointed time. The mystery (sod) is hidden in the book of genesis and one obscure verse in Jeremiah 31.

    I AM the LORD declaring the end from the beginning…………if you want to know how it all ends, go back to the beginning.

    Genesis 3:15–>”it is the seed of the woman that shall crush the serpents head”

    Jeremiah 31:22–> “………….for i will do a new thing on earth; a woman shall *lead* a man”. Look up the Hebrew word *sabab*; strong concordance H5437 includes: encompass, encircle, turn around…….

    It is for the glory of the LORD to hide a thing, and the glory of kings (and queens) to seek them out. The LORD reveals HIS sod (secret) to them who fear HIM.

    The mysterious secret? THIS is the fingerprint of HaShem evident throughout scripture. HE works not according to man but of Spirit. In the last days, it shall be according to Ruach (via woman) NOT arms of flesh (via man).

    THIS is why satan (via SBC & affiliates) has been fighting women relentlessly. Take your counsel, but it shall not stand.

    1. This a powerful word I’ve never heard before. Thank you for sharing this because at this point in my healing journey from spiritual abuse, it’s like a balm. Thank you for all your posts of scripture.

  4. “Until the Church realizes the soul-destroying trauma of sexual abuse, the pattern will continue. Kay still remembers the horror of being molested in church as a little girl.” Rick Warren
    Yes, this is different than grown adults remaining in a spiritually abusive-by-leadership environment. We understand you, Rick and Kay. This is very, very, serious and very, very criminal: the rape of a young girl by a married man – for nearly 5 years.

  5. Surely I can’t be the only person thinking that mega churches should take a long, hard look at what they’re perpetuating. There’s no earthly way mere mortals can oversee thousands of people’s souls that congregate under their leadership. It’s preposterous that it continues and the “sheep” in these churches cause these disastrous practices to continue by willingly going along with the design. Gosh, wake up! You’re practically asking for it.

  6. The situation with Robert Morris is about Robert Morris. This seems like a sneaky article meant to drum up coverage of a different news item. Namely, the already reported on Andy Wood story.

    It also seems like an attempt to smear Rick Warren, who near as I can tell, has never been accused of wrong doing.

    1. John, you don’t see the connection between overlooking and minimizing the abuse in the pastor Warren hired, and the elders at Gateway overlooking and minimizing the abuse of Roberts? They didn’t pull this link out of nowhere, they noted the connection when Warren commented. I am glad he commented instead of stayed silent- but not acknowledging his own hypocrisy in the situation is a miss on his part.

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